This is a discussion on 140 M1A1 SA tanks for Iraq At Last within the Army & Security Forces forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; So your info comes from another forum.... not the most reputable of sources. Where would the Iranians have an M1A1 ...
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So your info comes from another forum.... not the most reputable of sources. Where would the Iranians have an M1A1 to modify? Sounds like garbage to me. I can see mods of T-72s, M-48s and M-60s. But I doubt anything particularly advanced came from those.
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I'm wondering how they were able to compare? In order to compare they would need actual info on the Zulfiqar 3. Can you ask them to provide that info (and their source)?
I'm wondering how they were able to compare? In order to compare they would need actual info on the Zulfiqar 3. Can you ask them to provide that info (and their source)?
Wikipedia says that it is essentially either a Patton with a 125mm gun in a box turret that's auto-loaded. I guess they can compare in a sense that both guns are capable of mashing armor.
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There are three tanks here that we're talking about. Zulfiqar 1, 2, and 3. Almaleki said that there are significant differences between them. I'm curious as to what those differences are.
There are three tanks here that we're talking about. Zulfiqar 1, 2, and 3. Almaleki said that there are significant differences between them. I'm curious as to what those differences are.
There are external links to images of the #1 and #3 on the wikipedia page. I've uploaded them to this post, hopefully they are of what they say they are. From the images i'm assuming 03 and 04 are the # and 05 is the #1. Wiki says two was a technology demonstrater. I know wiki isnt the best image source, but it will have to do till we find a more accurate one.
Iranian And Arabic Forums ,, they say its modified from M60A3-120 ( the Amerian Modify ) and some Armor Plates with Laser And Heat designators ,, Almost an M1A1 as they say ,,,
these are pictures for the Tank from Arabic Forums :
No, Zuilfaqar is not even close to being a M1A1, technology for the Z series comes from China as far as armor protection and FCS, the Z3 is not even close to being fielded at this time, what you see in the parades are just some test bed vehicles for propaganda purposes.
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For sure the US knows how to destroy them.
Just like how they plan to destroy any other modern tank out there in a shooting war.
I very much doubt that the US implemented some secret "blow up trigger" into their export Abrams which is controlled by a big red buzzer in the Pentagon...
I would not consider them a threat since we built the tanks then we know how to destroy them in war.
The Iranian Zulfiqar tanks are indigenous designs, probably with a lot of help from their Chinese friends. So unless you are a Chinese or Iranian you can not say that "we" built these tanks.
But well, most has been said about those Zulfiqars. The latest version Zulfiqar 3 has never left the flatbed truck in public so as far as today we don't have a proof they are able to drive on their own at all. Let alone the state of development of their fire control system and so on.
Zuilfaqar-3 ( they say it is Operational ) but as i know that could not Put the T-72 Fire Contral System in the Frame of the Tank !!!
They have a couple of proto types for testing purposes but so far the emphasis has been the T-72 series for upgrades and new builds which now they do have the resources to do.
The Fire control more than likely is the same as Chinese Type 98.
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