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story
October 18th, 2009, 09:11 AM
In a section of a book I'm working on, two very inexperienced pilots try to turn their fighter jets (F-16's . . . or something comparable) around to take a second pass at a ground target. They're flying through a lightly populated area with some high buildings, so the mistakes they make don't have to be ones that would put down the aircraft completely . . . it could simply be a mistake that ends up heading one (or both) into a building face.
What possible things (plural) might they have done to lose control in a sharp turn, and what would be the result to the plane?
I'm very interested in the right terms involved as their planes fail: ailerons, fairings, flaps, spoilers, etc.. These types of specifics will help me avoid generic lines like, "one pilot tried to turn to fast and lost control." Blah.
TIA for any replies!
~john
PS: I know it's a novice question, but the book is one which covers a lot of areas (physics, biology, philosophy, aviation, etc.) And I need to consult experts when I have questions--since the experts are the ones who will provide not only the right info, but the right "slang" -- since the words I choose are important, too.
zeven
October 22nd, 2009, 08:08 AM
In a section of a book I'm working on, two very inexperienced pilots try to turn their fighter jets (F-16's . . . or something comparable) around to take a second pass at a ground target. They're flying through a lightly populated area with some high buildings, so the mistakes they make don't have to be ones that would put down the aircraft completely . . . it could simply be a mistake that ends up heading one (or both) into a building face.
What possible things (plural) might they have done to lose control in a sharp turn, and what would be the result to the plane?
I'm very interested in the right terms involved as their planes fail: ailerons, fairings, flaps, spoilers, etc.. These types of specifics will help me avoid generic lines like, "one pilot tried to turn to fast and lost control." Blah.
TIA for any replies!
~john
PS: I know it's a novice question, but the book is one which covers a lot of areas (physics, biology, philosophy, aviation, etc.) And I need to consult experts when I have questions--since the experts are the ones who will provide not only the right info, but the right "slang" -- since the words I choose are important, too.
That is one hard question. because you've plenty of outcomes from each decision the pilots make. the first that comes into my mind is "pilot error" most platforms are restricted in terms of AoA and high 9s. the Gripen crash (93 i believe) under stockholm waterfestival is a great trademark. here the flight control system combined with PIO error caused the crash, this could have been avoided if the pilot had more authority over the aricraft. Pilot didnt know the pre-configurated restrictions in advance good enough. important to know is: a plane crash very rarely accure because of one error, its often multiply events/errors that cause a plane to crash.
story
October 22nd, 2009, 10:58 AM
That is one hard question. because you've plenty of outcomes from each decision the pilots make. the first that comes into my mind is "pilot error" most platforms are restricted in terms of AoA and high 9s. the Gripen crash (93 i believe) under stockholm waterfestival is a great trademark. here the flight control system combined with PIO error caused the crash, this could have been avoided if the pilot had more authority over the aricraft. Pilot didnt know the pre-configurated restrictions in advance good enough. important to know is: a plane crash very rarely accure because of one error, its often multiply events/errors that cause a plane to crash.
Thanks, Zeven, for the reply! It's exactly that kind of info that will help build a technically accurate passage in the book. I'd love to hear more . . .
~john
zeven
October 22nd, 2009, 11:16 AM
In this forum you have very well eduacated ppl. just ask them what ever your question is, i will do my best to answer aswell you can PM me if you want. and if im not qualified to answer i will let you know.
gf0012-aust
October 22nd, 2009, 04:34 PM
important to know is: a plane crash very rarely accure because of one error, its often multiply events/errors that cause a plane to crash.
well put. its usually a series of smaller events that concatenate and lead up to a final larger event.
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