J10 is not CHina's best aircraft now?

[badguy2000]

well, in the video, the Deputy President of CAC(Chengdu Aircraft Com.),where J10 is produced, said that "J10 is not our best bird now"!

then, if J10 is not CAC's best bird,what should its best bird be?!


http://v.cctv.com/html/news30/2008/11/news30_300_20081106_14.shtml

[SABRE]

well, in the video, the Deputy President of CAC(Chengdu Aircraft Com.),where J10 is produced, said that "J10 is not our best bird now"!

then, if J10 is not CAC's best bird,what should its best bird be?!


http://v.cctv.com/html/news30/2008/11/news30_300_20081106_14.shtml

He is then probably referring to J-10B. I doubt he'll ever praise J-11B.

[badguy2000]

He is then probably referring to J-10B. I doubt he'll every praise J-11B.
well, J11B is not produced by CAC.

Instead,J11B is produced by SAC(Shenyang Aircraft Com.),the compititor of CAC.

J10B is the two-seated type of J10...

I don't think what he refered should be J10b or J11b.

Furthermore,the sensors ,aviations of J11b is reported to be transplanted from J10's...I don't think J11B is more advanced than J10 if measued by tech...

J11B just play a role of heavy bird while J10 is a "lighter bird'.

[badguy2000]

He is then probably referring to J-10B. I doubt he'll every praise J-11B.
of course,the next generation bird of CHina,J13/14 so called ,should not roll out so soon....so,that is why I am so confused at his word that "J10 is not our best bird now"

[SABRE]

well, J11B is not produced by CAC.

Instead,J11B is produced by SAC(Shenyang Aircraft Com.),the compititor of CAC.

That is why I said he'll not praise J-11B

J10B is the two-seated type of J10...

No the two seater is not J-10B. CAC is NOT following American coding like A/B C/D & E/F. J-10B is the upgraded & modified version based on the regular J-10.

I think 2 seater is called J-10C (tphuang might me some help here).

[badguy2000]

That is why I said he'll not praise J-11B



No the two seater is not J-10B. CAC is NOT following American coding like A/B C/D & E/F. J-10B is the upgraded & modified version based on the regular J-10.

I think 2 seater is called J-10C (tphuang might me some help here).
well, As I know, J10B should be the two seated,mult-role type,which is mainly for training .

[badguy2000]

That is why I said he'll not praise J-11B



No the two seater is not J-10B. CAC is NOT following American coding like A/B C/D & E/F. J-10B is the upgraded & modified version based on the regular J-10.

I think 2 seater is called J-10C (tphuang might me some help here).
I just guess that CAC should get some breakthrough of the upgraded type of J10,so called "super 10" with stealth feature,

According the some guy in chinese military forum,CAC started to the development of " radical modified tpye of J10" (super 10) immediatly after J10 was finished in 2003 or so.

now 5 years has passed, so it is possible that CAC now obtain some fruit...

[SABRE]

I just guess that CAC should get some breakthrough of the upgraded type of J10,so called "super 10" with stealth feature,

According the some guy in chinese military forum,CAC started to the development of " radical modified tpye of J10" (super 10) immediatly after J10 was finished in 2003 or so.

now 5 years has passed, so it is possible that CAC now obtain some fruit...

There is no Super J-10 as far as I know. There is only J-10 (single & 2 seat) & J-10B. The Super J-10 was rumored around many defence forums & later found to be called J-10B.

[old faithful]

2 seat J10 = JJ10?

[badguy2000]

There is no Super J-10 as far as I know. There is only J-10 (single & 2 seat) & J-10B. The Super J-10 was rumored around many defence forums & later found to be called J-10B.
well, there is indeed not "super 10".

the guy inside refered it as " redical modified type of J10".

super10 initially was just the imagined tpye of some J0's fans before " redical modified type of J10" was revealed....

but some people found " redical modified type of J10" was somewhat like "super10" refered....

[ReAl PrOeLiTeZ]

Twin seater J-10 is J-10S. S stands for Shuang, meaning Pair/Twin. As for super 10, this was someones eager thoughts and never had any information or visual images to prove it. The only thing that strongly could be the next J-10 derivative would be a naval J-10 version for the PLANAF, maybe not neccesarly for carrier but just for dedicated PLANAF operations.

[Jezza]

the technology is old compared to SUs in service
the first batch are basic
the next batch will be better

[crobato]

Technically the J-10 operational model now is J-10A. The original J-10s were prototypes and rather than produce it, the development skipped to the J-10A. So the next model is J-10B. J-10S refers to the two seat version. It appears that JJ- has been dropped for trainer. The new designation for trainers is JL-, like the JL-9.

The Chinese do not use the same coding like the Americans do. Some letters are reserved like the S for twin seater.

F = Air Defense, expected this to be reserved for an interceptor, like in J-8F.

G = Gai or Improved like J-7G.

H = Hai or sea. Reserved for a naval version.

For example, after J-7E, it jumps to J-7G. as the J-7G is an improvement of the J-7E.

J-7F is reserved for a version of the J-7E/G that may probably never be released for various reasons and that is a version capable of using the PL-12, kind of like a Chinese MiG-21 Bison. Similarly, you got the J-7FS prototype and the F-7MF concept, which was a model displayed in previous Zhuhai airshows (no longer with this one apparently).

J-7H is the J-7B updated with J-7E avionics and originally intended for the PLANAF but used with the PLAAF as well.

Don't confuse the Chinese use of the "M" like with the Russians use of the same letter. For the Russians it means "modified" or something like that, but for the Chinese, M means for export. That's why you got F-7M and F-7MG. F-7M means J-7 for export and F-7MG would mean J-7 for export improved. One can guess what F-7MF means.

[tphuang]

yep, I agree with everything Crobato wrote, there really is not much further to say on this from me.