Al-khalid Vs T-90.

[Oqaab]

A Small Comparison Between Al-Khalid and T-90.

Crew

AL-Khalid = 3
T-90 = 3

Combat Weight

Al-Khalid = 48,000 kg
T-90 = 46,500 kg

Engine

Al-Khalid = 1200 horsepower
T-90 = 840 horsepower

Maximum Speed

Al-Khalid = 72 km/hr
T-90 = 65 km/hr

Maximum Range

Al-Khalid = 450 kms
T-90 = 500

Vertical Obstacle

Al-Khalid = 0.85 m
T-90 = 0.85

Fording

Al-Khalid = without preparation 1.4 metres
T-90 = without preparation 1.2 metres

Trench

Al-Khalid = 2.7 m
T-90 = 2.8 m

Armament

Al-Khalid

(main): 1 x 125 mm gun 125mm Smooth Bore, Chrome Plated, Auto fret aged
Circular Carousel Type: (Cassette Type) 22 Rounds / Minute 6-8

FCS/GCS : Type: Image Stabilized (3rd generation director type stabilization), Optics: LASER protected (coaxial): 1 x 7.62 mm MG
(anti-aircraft): 1 x 12.7 mm MG
Smoke grenade dischargers: 2 x 6, can also lay smoke screen by injecting diesel into the exhaust outlets at the rear

GUNNER SIGHT : Type Integrated, Bi-axis Stabilized Day/Night, Tl, LRF
Magnification Dual, 3x & 1 Ox
Field of View 20° & 6°

COMMANDER SIGHT:
Type Panoramic,
Bi-Axis stabilized,

LRF, 2nd Generation IIT
Hunter-Killer Capability
Magnification 7.5x
Field of View 7 . 5
LRF : Type ND YAG
Range200 ~ 5000m
AUTO TRACKER: Tracking Error < 0.1 mils Interfaced with Gunner Day Sight & Tl

T-90

1 x 125mm 2A46M smoothbore gun with 43 rounds.
...............1 x 12.7mm NSVT anti-aircraft gun with 300 rounds. [1]
...............1 x 7.62mm PKT co-axial machine gun with 2000 rounds.
...............1 x 5.45mm AKS-74 rifle, carried on storage rack, with 300 rounds. [2]
[1] The 12.7mm NSVT, mounted on the commander's contra-rotating copula which can be aimed and fired under complete armour protection, uses the PZU-7 machine gun sight and the 1ETs29 (with vertical stabilisation) machine gun FCS (Fire Control System).
[2] The locally-produced 5.56mm INSAS Assault Rifle <http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Rifles.html> will likely be used.

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The question is which tank will give better results in a possible war???

[Red aRRow]

Not a huge difference between the two but looks like the Al-Khalid has the qualitative edge. But I bet Indians are gonna dispute the point. :nonsense

[Oqaab]

First we all have to remember that Indians brought T-90s to counter our T-80UD tanks. They believe that their upgraded T-72s are enough for Al-Khalids.

[Red aRRow]

Pakistan's indigenous heavy industries are one of the best in the region to say the least with the exception of China. Al Khalid is more than a match for whatever India has. :smokingc:

[Oqaab]

Any reasons ????? :? :?

[Red aRRow]

Oqaab just look at the results. I mean Pakistan has the Al-Khalid, Al-Zarrar upgrade, Al-Talha, Saad etc etc etc. under its belt while India is still working on the Arjun.

[Oqaab]

shamayel,

I was talking about Al-Khalid's performance, not of HIT. :)

[nqbaig]

Well, Machine is dependent on its operator and Pakistanis having edge over Indians on that.
Pakistan Zindabad

[Oqaab]

Pakistan also has a technical edge Indian army anyways.

The only difference I see in these tanks is that T-90 has the capability of staying away from ATGMs.

[umair]

Idea ! :idea2 increase the AL- Khalid's frontal armour (any good sabot round could peneterate what it has).Should we look towards developin atop attack guided round similar to the STAFF round developed by the US as it will give us an advantage in tackling dug in armour as well as low flying choppers.(The STAFF has an infrared homing head which increases it's chances of hitting dug in armour & since it's atop attack round it will hit the targets on their heads where armour is almost non existant.The homing head & a high muzzle velocity would in an engagement with choppers make it a tank launched heat seeking sam, thereby increasin the tank's selfe defence capability against choppers.)Also the autoloader should be taken out and a loader included in the crew.This cause of the fact that Ammo of the type loaded in the auto loader cannot be changed untill the round in the breech has been expended this could mean in battle a sabot round may have tobe fired at a bunker before the requisite HE or HEAT round thereby wastin good ammo. :smokingc:

[artilleryfire]

Al-Khalid is worthy than T-90.

[umair]

In order to get realy accurate info about the Al-Khalid I suggest visiting this site:

[/url]www.pakistanidefence.com
(Someone I know in the army told me that this site has the most accurate specs regarding the Al-Khalid)
PS Irealy think that this tank could use a bit more frontal armour and an IVIS in it's electronics suite.[/list][/list]

[attackistan]

whys it named "Al-khalid"

[Red aRRow]

The Al-Khalid is named after the great Muslim general Khalid-bin-Waleed who never lost a battle and used to say "My army loves death as much as your army loves life."

[Mujahid]

yes khalid-bin-waleed was indeed a great person.


There are only 2 generals in history that remained undefeated - Khalid Bin Waleed and ghengis khan.


wasalam,

Mujahid :cop

[Oqaab]

Lets get back to the topic guys.

I would like to see an upgraded version of Al-khalid with Shotra-1 system installed and lighter weight which will make it more manoverable !!!

[artilleryfire]

Al-khalid is worthy than T-90 because Al-Khalid can stay in severe desert conditions with 100% performance where T-90 simply not.

[Red aRRow]

I agree with umair on the fact that the frontal armour needs to be increased little bit. But will it impede performance by adding too much weight?? or will the Ukrainian engine be able to handle it?? :?

[corsair7772]

I think the Ukranian engine can handle it but wat the al-khalid cant give up is its maneuvearability and technology so i say no 2 more armour cuz i think its enuff and a tanks gotta die when it has 2

[AnonymousDoe]

T-90 are nothing. I don't even know why its called a tank, since the armor on the tank is about 100mm.

[corsair7772]

well wat do u think it is? a BMP?

[Timmy]

Hi guys

[corsair7772]

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[yutong chen]

T-90 have no armor, so it can't be counted as tank

[Winter]

yutong chen said:T-90 have no armor, so it can't be counted as tank

You think this has no armour?

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/images/t90_2.jpg

The T-90 has standard plating and ERA.

[corsair7772]

So wat do we call it then? A light or medium tank?

[Red aRRow]

T-90 have no armor, so it can't be counted as tank

UHHHHH WHAT???????? :eek :roll :roll :roll

[Oqaab]

T-90 have no armor, so it can't be counted as tank

UHHHHH WHAT???????? :eek :roll :roll :roll

I think he meant that T-90 cant be counted as a MAIN BATTLE TANK !!! :D

[Su_37]

T-90 gun-missile tank came a couple of years into the 1990s and it is far more better then Al -Kahlid and is a better version of troublesome T-80 (engine). The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret.
1) The gun can fire anti-tank guided missiles.
2) Ballistic computer and DVE-BS wind gauge and day/night sight which has identification ranges of 800 m during the day and 700 m at night.
3) The tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour,
4) Has equipment for mine-clearing and NBC protection.
5) The T-90 is provided with infrared jammer, laser equipment etc.

I think it defensive measures is quite good as it blocks infrared equipments and also can fire , fire and forget type 4th generation antitank missile with tandom warhead which can precise any tank armor in the world even the al -Khalid's and also it is equiped with best armour which can take upto 2 direct hit at same place.

With that much of firepower in a machinie and so much of defensive i think it is the best Tank

[Oqaab]

T-90 gun-missile tank came a couple of years into the 1990s and it is far more better then Al -Kahlid and is a better version of troublesome T-80 (engine). The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret.
1) The gun can fire anti-tank guided missiles.
2) Ballistic computer and DVE-BS wind gauge and day/night sight which has identification ranges of 800 m during the day and 700 m at night.
3) The tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour,
4) Has equipment for mine-clearing and NBC protection.
5) The T-90 is provided with infrared jammer, laser equipment etc.

Al-Khalid's gun can also fire missiles. Anything new ???
The T-90 has the advantage of infrared jammers. But Pakistani T-84 tanks have this capability. Anti-tank guided missiles cannot hit T-84 tanks.

[umair]

T-90 gun-missile tank came a couple of years into the 1990s and it is far more better then Al -Kahlid and is a better version of troublesome T-80 (engine). The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret.
1) The gun can fire anti-tank guided missiles.
2) Ballistic computer and DVE-BS wind gauge and day/night sight which has identification ranges of 800 m during the day and 700 m at night.
3) The tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour,
4) Has equipment for mine-clearing and NBC protection.
5) The T-90 is provided with infrared jammer, laser equipment etc.

Al-Khalid's gun can also fire missiles. Anything new ???
The T-90 has the advantage of infrared jammers. But Pakistani T-84 tanks have this capability. Anti-tank guided missiles cannot hit T-84 tanks.


Oqaab! the Al Khalid also has an Abraams type warning reciever who's sensors can pick up a laser ping any where on the hull,thereby alerting the crew to prepare for countermeasures.Also the army may fit infrared jammers on to these tanks in the near future.About the laser warning reciever,I wonder if the T90 has something like that.Would any body care to shed some light on this? :help

[Winter]

'The T-90 is equiped with the TShU-1-7 Shtora-1 optronic counter measures system which is designed to disrupt the laser target designation and rangefinders of incoming ATGM. The T-90 is also equipped with a laser warning package that warns the tank crew when it is being lased. Shtora-1 is an electro-optical jammer that jams the enemy’s semiautomatic command to line of sight (SACLOS) antitank guided missiles, laser rangefinders and target designators. Shtora-1 is actually a soft kill, or countermeasures system.

It is most effective when used in tandem with a hard kill system such as the Arena.

The Shtora-1 system comprises four key components, the electro-optical interface station, which includes a jammer, modulator, and control panel; a bank of forward-firing grenade dischargers mounted on either side of the turret that are capable of firing grenades dispensing an aerosol screen; a laser warning system with precision and coarse heads; and a control system comprising control panel, microprocessor, and manual screen-laying panel. This processes the information from the sensors and activates the aerosol screen-laying system. Two infrared lights, one on each side of the main gun, continuously emit coded pulsed infrared jamming when an incoming ATGM has been detected. Shtora-1 has a field of view of 360-degrees horizontally and -5 to +25-degrees in elevation. It contains 12 aerosol screen launchers and weighs 400kg. The screening aerosol takes less than 3 seconds to form and lasts about 20 seconds. The screen laying range is between 50-70 meters.'

:cat2

[Su_37]

T-90 are nothing. I don't even know why its called a tank, since the armor on the tank is about 100mm.

My dear friend Strenth of Armor is not measured from its thinkckness. One is best example of Pattern tank of Pakistan, Most thick armor at that time and failed in from of rockets.

In this Gulf WAR 2, no anti tank missile able to penerate British tank armor, but it done well againt American.

British is the best tank maker of armor in the wrold.

Moreoevr i dont wanna tell you that T90 is equipped with Infrared Jammers , SAMs, and also can fire 4th generation Anti Tank missiles beside tandom warheads.

In trials in russia shows that T90 can take 2 direct hit at the same point.

[gf0012-aust]

Update: Turkey has offered to improve the capabilities of the Al Khalid

Turkish officials said Pakistan has offered Ankara's military industry to contribute to the Khaled tank with Western technology. The officials said the offer was detailed in recent talks between Pakistani defense officials and visiting Turkish Deputy Chief of Staff Gen. Ilker Basbug.

Under the offer, Pakistan and Turkey would jointly produce the Khaled for marketing in the Middle East and other areas. Pakistan's Heavy Industries Taxila would continue to produce the armor and assemble the tank while Turkish industries would develop and install night-vision and other sensors for the tank.

The Pakistani offer was meant to increase the attractiveness of the Khaled. Limited production of the Khaled began in 2000 and Pakistan has been unable to complete any deal with a foreign military.

[gf0012-aust]

The problem with the T90 stems back to its heritage:

Granted it uses the latest version of the 125mm (which is still derived from the T-62, T-72 series), so it will also fire the AT-11 Sniper-B ATGM.

At 50 metric tonnes it is a good 20 tons lighter than the latest western tanks so in spite of all its extra kit, it's still too lightly armoured to cop a hit from a western MBT. The gun will have trouble penetrating the armour of a western tank from longer ranges.

The T72/80/90 series has decent armour for its initial design brief, but the ammunition is stored in a carousel in the hull below the turret. There is substantial combat experience that shows that penetrating hits (including RPGs) tend to hit the ammunition, which results in a catastrophic explosion that kills the crew.

In 1982 the Syrian T-72s suprised everyone by getting destroyed by 105mm rounds fired by Merkavas and M60s. Iraqi T-72s fared even worse against the Coalition 120mm guns in both '91 and '03. Russian Army T-72s and T-80s were destroyed by Chechens armed with RPG's in Grozny, so I think that vulnerability is not restricted to export models. (which the T-90s is) . Some of the Grozny kills were RPG 7's and not the latter '22's.

The Russian fascination with active armour (ERA) defences on this latest tank is an attempt to make up for the original armour deficiency.

It will be interesting to see how it would stack up against an Al-Khalid in combat as the design briefs are very dissimilar.

[dabrownguy]

I'm gonna say this, If I was riding in a AK I would go up against a t-80up or whatever they call it but not a T-90. T-90 has way toooo many shite you don't wanna fcuk with!

[elkaboingo]

i've got a way to get around teh laser warning system. lets go back to the old way of find the range to a target. take a ruler and measure the size of the target on the screen and compare it to a chart. :D

[greatindian]

T-90S specifications mentioned is incorrect and incomplete. Here are the actual specifications

The T-90S is the latest development in the T-series of Russian tanks and represents an increase in firepower, mobility and protection. It is manufactured by Nizhnyi Tagil of the Russian Federation.


The T-90S is in service with the Russian Army and has been selected by the Indian Army, with a requirement for 250 vehicles. Three T-90S are undergoing trials in the Indian desert.

ARMAMENT

The T-90S armament includes one 125 mm 2A46M smoothbore gun, stabilised in two axes and fitted with a thermal sleeve. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. The gun can fire a variety of ammunition including APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot), HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank), HE-FRAG (High Explosive Fragmentation) as well as shrapnel projectiles with time fuzes.

The T-90S gun can also fire the 9M119 Refleks (NATO designation AT-11 Sniper) anti-tank guided missile system. The range of the missile is 100 - 4,000 m and takes 11.7 sec to reach maximum range. The system is intended to engage tanks fitted with ERA (Explosive Reactive Armour) as well as low-flying air targets such as helicopters, at a range of up to 5 km. The missile system fires either the 9M119 or 9M119M missiles which have semi-automatic laser beamriding guidance and a hollow charge warhead. Missile weight is 23.4 kg. The guns automatic loader will feed both ordnance and missiles.

Also fitted is a coaxial 7.62 mm PKT machine gun and a 12.7 mm air defence machine gun. A 5.45 mm AKS-74 assault rifle is carried on a storage rack.

SELF-PROTECTION

The T-90 tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour (ERA).

The T-90 is fitted with the Shtora-1 defensive aids suite which is produced by Electronintorg of Russia. This system includes infrared jammer, laser warning system with four laser warning receivers, grenade discharging system which produces an aerosol screen and a computerised control system.

It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.

FIRE CONTROL AND OBSERVATION

The T-90S has the 1A4GT integrated fire control system (IFCS) which is automatic but with manual override for the commander. The IFCS contains the gunner's 1A43 day fire control system, gunner's TO1-KO1 thermal imaging sight which has a target identification range of 1.2 km to 1.5 km and commander's PNK-S sight.

The gunner's 1A43 day FCS comprises: 1G46 day sight/rangefinder with missile guidance channel, 2E42-4 armament stabiliser, 1V528 ballistic computer and DVE-BS wind gauge.

The commander's PNK-4S sight includes a TKN-4S (Agat-S) day/night sight which has identification ranges of 800 m (day) and 700 m (night).

The driver is equipped with a TVN-5 infrared night viewer.

PROPULSION

The T-90S has a liquid-cooled V-84MS 618 kW (840 hp) four-stroke V-12 piston engine. This engine can be fuelled by T-2 or TS-1 kerosene and A-72 benzine, in addition to diesel. The tank can carry up to 1,600 litres of fuel in the main fuel tanks and fuel drums. The fuel tanks are reinforced with armour plating.

The tank is provided with a snorkel for deep fording and can ford 5 metres of water with equipment which can be deployed in 20 minutes.

The mechanical transmission includes primary reduction gear, two planetary final gearboxes and two planetary final drives. The running gear features torsion bar suspension with hydraulic shock absorbers at 1, 2 and 6 road wheel stations and tracks with rubber-metallic pin hinges.


As seen above the T-90S is the most sophisticated and the modern tank that India has and it has the capability to fight its worth. Also some Indo-Pak comparison given by Janes in the following ppt.

http://4.21.114.228/srt/sub/presentations/12_Jones.ppt


East or West India is the best

[yutong chen]

Did you know chinese 125mm smooth bore gun is indigenously built, the only thing in common is the auto-loader.

[elkaboingo]

you said APDS which is armour piercing discarding sabot, you left out the fin-stabilised :)

[Majin-Vegeta]

ill give Al-Khalid upgrades in my mod ;) just wait a while..i gotta get everything going once again..a few people to help out with skinning..then i will do upgrades (which you can buy in game).

[darklegent]

I may be wrong but I am sure to have read that the Indian T-90 are powered by an up-rated 1,000 hp V-84KD turbo-supercharged diesel
engine or the 1,000 hp V-85 diesel. I do not have the link but will post it later.

[Indus]

T-90 are nothing. I don't even know why its called a tank, since the armor on the tank is about 100mm.

abtually T-90 has 125mm 2A46M smoothbore gun ..
also oqaab.. under max speed.. you have given al-khalid's speed on road (supposedly 75km/hr) compared to T90's cross-country speed (45km/hr).. T90 on road speed is 65km/hr.. T90 has better cross country speed (what matters) than al-khalids 37km.. T90 has more armor also.. al-khalid is relatively small compared to other tanks so im not sure how well it can take blows in combat.. fill me in though..

[Oqaab]

Thanx for ur clarification. Post edited.

[Bilal_Khan]

Al Khalid can also carry Anti-Tank Missiles (according to Mandrake in PDF) and it's as good as T-90, perhaps better.

[poca]

yeah al-khalid looks like a pretty good tank...to me .thats good news man ..
but i have heard ARJUN MBT-II project is over and is one of the top ten tanks in the world..plus TANK-EX is another tank thats in the making ..is this true guys ?

[Revenant]

Al-Khalid's gun can also fire missiles. Anything new ???
The T-90 has the advantage of infrared jammers. But Pakistani T-84 tanks have this capability. Anti-tank guided missiles cannot hit T-84 tanks.

Any ATGM cannot hit T-84???!!!! Wanna bet??? BTW, excellent joke:D

Practical T-90 frontal turret armour thickness:
800mm RHA against APFSDS projectiles at ranges of >500m (five hundred meters)
1200mm RHA against HEAT charges

[ajay_ijn]

Anti-tank guided missiles cannot hit T-84 tanks.
There is no tank in the world that can have complete protection from ATGM's.

Technical Comparision of Al-Khalid and T-90
Armament:
T-90:It is fitted with 125mm Smoothbore gun which can fire APDS ,HEAT, HE-FRAG.
The gun can fire AT-11 Sniper ATGM of range 5km which Laser beam riding Guidance and can penetrate 700mm of RHA.
It can carry 42 rounds and can fire 7 rounds/min

The T-90S armament includes one 125mm 2A46M smoothbore gun, stabilised in two axes and fitted with a thermal sleeve. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. The gun can fire a variety of ammunition including APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot), HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank), HE-FRAG (High Explosive Fragmentation) as well as shrapnel projectiles with time fuzes.
The T-90S gun can also fire the 9M119 Refleks (NATO designation AT-11 Sniper) anti-tank guided missile system. The range of the missile is 100m to 4,000m and takes 11.7 sec to reach maximum range. The system is intended to engage tanks fitted with ERA (Explosive Reactive Armour) as well as low-flying air targets such as helicopters, at a range of up to 5km. The missile system fires either the 9M119 or 9M119M missiles which have semi-automatic laser beamriding guidance and a hollow charge warhead. Missile weight is 23.4kg. The guns automatic loader will feed both ordnance and missiles.
Also fitted is a coaxial 7.62mm PKT machine gun and a 12.7mm air defence machine gun. A 5.45mm AKS-74 assault rifle is carried on a storage rack.

Al-Khalid:It is fitted with 125mm Smoothbore Gun which can fire APFSDS,HEAT and HE-FS.
Its Unclear whether the tank is carrying ATGM but the gun is having the capability to fire Missiles.
It can carry 39 rounds and can fire 8 rounds/min
Al-Khalid has been designed with a 125mm (48 calibre) smooth bore, autofrettaged and chrome plated gun which can fire APFSDS, HEAT-FS and HE-FS conventional ammunition and missiles. It is equipped with muzzle reference system, and bi-axis stabilisation. Elevation and azimuth control is achieved by electro-hydraulic power drives. The tank is also equipped with a 7.62 mm-coaxial MG, 12.7mm externally mounted MG that can be fired with the hatch closed and grenade launchers.


Fire Control System:
T-90:Its Fire Control System is automatic but has a manual override for the commander.
For Night Vision T-90 is equipped with Agava-2 Sight which can identify targets at a range of 2.5km and Buran-PA Sight which can identify targets at a range of 1.2km in passive mode and 1.5km in active mode.
Gunner FCS Consists of Ballistic Computer,1A43 Day/Range Finder Sight,Laying device and Wind Gauge.
Commander has Agat Day/Night Sight which can identify targets at 800m in Active mode and 700m in Passive Mode.
Driver is equipped with a Infra-Red Night Vision Viewer.

Al-Khalid:The commander can aquire the a target Independently while Gunner can fire on previously selected ones.
Commander is provided with a panoramic Sight,LRF and has hunter killer capability.
Gunnner has dual Magnification Day/Night Sight with Laser range finder.
Night Vision is provided by dual magnification Thermal Imaging Sight.
Its Fire Control System consists of Ballistic Computer ,Sensor cross wind.

Protection:
T-90:It has Kontakt-5 Heavy ERA which is capable of defeating APFSDS rounds.
Its frontal turret can give protection upto 540-760mm Vs APFSDS and
800-1220mm Vs HEAT.
Glacis can give protection upto 690mm Vs APFSDS and 940mm Vs HEAT.
Its unclear whether Indian T-90's carry the Shotra-1 Laser Jamming System.
Bharat Rakshak Says Indian T-90s are not fitted with Shotra System.
But Some other reports say they are fitted.
Its also fitted with NBC Protection System.
The T-90 is fitted with the Shtora-1 defensive aids suite which is produced by Electronintorg of Russia. This system includes infrared jammer, laser warning system with four laser warning receivers, grenade discharging system which produces an aerosol screen and a computerised control system.
Al-Khalid:It is fitted with Composite and ERA armor.
Its turret can offer protection upto 590-630mm Vs KE and 700mm Vs HEAT.
Its Glacis can give protection upto 450mmVs KE and 540mm VsHEAT.
The hull is of welded steel construction with an additional layer of composite armour at the front. Explosive reactive armour has been added to the glacis plate and nose of the vehicle. The driver is seated in the centre and has a single-piece hatch cover that lifts and swings to the right and in front of this are three periscopes, the centre one of which can be replaced by a passive periscope for driving at night. The turret is in the centre and is of all welded steel armour construction to which a layer of composite armour has been added over the frontal arc. In addition, to the turret front, sides and forward roof has been added packs of explosive reactive armour

Propulsion:
T-90:It is powered by 1000hp V-92S2 Four Stroke V-12 Diesel Engine which has power to weight ratio of 21 hp/ton.

Al-Khalid:It has 1200 Hp Diesel engine of power to weight ratio of 26 hp/ton.

Performance:
T-90:
Ground pressure:0.87 kg/sqcm
Weight:46 tons
Max Speed:65 km/h on road and 45km/h on Cross Country.
Max Range:650km on road and 500km on Cross Country.
Trench Crossing:2.8m Wide.
Vertical Obstacle:0.85m.

Al-Khalid:
Weight:46 tons
Max Speed:70km/hr
Max Range:400km
Trench Crossing:2.7m
Vertical Obstacle:0.85m
Sources:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/ (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/)
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/T-90.html
http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/MBT/t-90.html
http://www.depo.org.pk/products/hit/alkhalid.htm
http://www.ciar.org/ttk/mbt/pakistan.al-khalid.art3_tank.html
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bob_mackenzie/Armour%20Values.htm
http://www.ciar.org/ttk/mbt/pakistan.al-khalid.art3_tank.html

Conclusion:Al-Khalid Really looks impressive tank developed by pakistan.
If Indian T-90's are equipped with Laser Jamming Systems then they can be at significant advantage.
The T-90's Kontakt-5 ERA looks better than what Al-khalid has.
It makes T-90 one of the best protected tanks in the world.
T-90 is more comparable to T-80UD rather than Al-Khalid.

The interesting question would be Can the Al-khalid APFSDS round penetrate the T-90's armor.
The Kontakt-5 can also give protection from APFSDS Rounds.
Some reports say that even US DU Rounds cannot penetrate the Kontakt-5.
http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/EQP/era.html




"Speaking at a conference on Future Armoured Warfare in London in May, IDR's Pentagon correspondent Leland Ness explained that US tests involved firing trials of Russian-built T-72 tanks fitted with Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour (ERA). In contrast to the original, or 'light', type of ERA which is effective only against shaped charge jets, the 'heavy' Kontakt-5 ERA is also effective against the long-rod penetrators of APFSDS tank gun projectiles. "When fitted to T-72 tanks, the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU penetrators of M829 APFSDS, fired by the 120 mm guns of the US M1 Abrams tanks, which are among the most formidable of current tank gun projectiles.

[kashifshahzad]

:coffee In my opinion i think Al -Khalid is better fron all dimension from the spped and the weaponary Yeah Pakistan is going towards the right direction

[Awang se]

i think what mr oqaab trying to say is T-84 was fitted with active protection system that destroy the ATGM before it hit the tank hull, much like a close in weapon system on ship.

[Temoor_A]

Al-Khalid MBT's design is similar to that of Russian T-90S MBT. Only some minor differences in capabilities exist with respect to equipment used in them and although Al-Khalid might be a tad bit better then T-90 counterpart, but both of them have small degree of advantages over other.

But it should be understood that among these, a tank with best crew will win in combat situation!

[brad_arsenxpt]

Oqaab just look at the results. I mean Pakistan has the Al-Khalid, Al-Zarrar upgrade, Al-Talha, Saad etc etc etc. under its belt while India is still working on the Arjun.
Friend i believe u are not aware of the new tank-ex which is a hybrid of t-70 and arjun and let the big boss roll out of the factory arjun mk 2 which is gonna be the big daddy of all sub-continent mbt"s and the icing on the cake is israel is helping in many things.

[Waylander]

Which tank do you mean with T-70?
I think you don't mean this one.

http://tanxheaven.com/krzo/t70tanklight/t70lighttankkrzo.htm

BTW, those posts are really irritating without any real information in it and just push the unqualified and biased comments in this thread.

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Take Note Everyone.

BTW, those posts are really irritating without any real information in it and just push the unqualified and biased comments in this thread.

[SABRE]

Which tank do you mean with T-70?
I think you don't mean this one.

http://tanxheaven.com/krzo/t70tanklight/t70lighttankkrzo.htm

BTW, those posts are really irritating without any real information in it and just push the unqualified and biased comments in this thread.

And they are over an year old. Apart from today, the last post was made on February 24th, 2005 02:00 AM. Plus, I think DT no longer allows "ABC vs XYZ" if its conflicting and no real informative material is available. This thread should be in grave yard.

[Waylander]

But I really like the Idea of mixing up the Arjun with this nice little polish tank. :D

Aaaah, I couldn't resist.

You are right, this is a dead thread which shouldn't be reanimated.

But mixing the Arjum with.... :cool: :D

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