New Pakistan / India topics on FREEZE - Must Read for ALL!!!

[WebMaster]

We have decided to put a FREEZE on NEW Pakistan / India topics for next 10 days. From 21st of july to 31st of July.

This action will help us look at other issues around the world and kinda step back from the ass rubbing that has been going on here for some time now.

There is a lot happening in other parts of the world but all we see here is people concerned with South Asia and on top of that some controversial issues really get out of hand sometimes!

DT is intended as International Defence Forum and not region or country specific website. I would be pleased if everyone sets their focus on International defence issues rather than a specific region. There is a lot happening in Middle east, Far east, pacific rim, EU, South America as far as defence is concerned. Be creative and post interesting topics that are not related to South Asia for next 10 days. Lets see how we do?

So, again do not open any topics related to Pak or India unless its VERY IMPORTANT (MODS will decide what is important) for next 10 days. If you do and its not important enough, it will be deleted.

PS: Note title in your browser window. Lets roll!

Enjoy!!!

[WebMaster]

BTW, you may continue to discuss the existing Pak/India topics. Just that no new topics for next 10 days related to South Asia! :P

[umair]

And please no crap in the existing topics.Otherwise :kar :nono

[srirangan]

What if something big comes up? The SAARC conf is under way and there a mighty good chance that some big statement/development may just come out; if that's the case then what?

[WebMaster]

From my point of view-No Exceptions. Sorry. But, it will be up to the mods to decide, it would be better if it can wait. ;)

[Pathfinder-X]

Yeah i was beginning to think this place is gonna turn into another Pakistan Defense Forum. 7 out of 10 threads mentions either pakistan or India.

[mysterious]

Finally! ;)

[WebMaster]

You CAN post non pak/India topics!!!!!!!!

[srirangan]

Hey if we can have region based forums (seperate forum for Middle East, South Asia, Europe etc) like then those people who don't wanna read about South Asia can easily avoid it.

I'm just not a fan of this sort of restrictions about what to post and what not etc. Seems like a dictatorship which I don't like ;)

Also being a web guy myself I am aware that it's never wise to shy away your most prolific user group. Just proper organization can take care of this mess.

[Pathfinder-X]

Well for starters this is a defence forum with high qulity of discussions, not a world affairs forum. We mainly discuss defence related issue or equipment here. Lately the forums experience a lot of ass rubbing which annoys me to see people flamming instead of discussing. If we add those sections we then that defeats the thing that attract me and most people here, friendly enviroment to talk about military, not world affairs. Adding pak/indian section is bound for ass rubs happening and might degrade the forum itself. I strongly stand against the idea. If people want to talk about India and Pak there are plenty of other forums out there.

[srirangan]

If you throw out the geopolitical discussions, then 90% of the discussions on this thread will have to go. That's something no webmaster will like.

The fact is people will discuss what they want to discuss, if you block them in this forum they'll just go about doing it elsewhere.

Admin: Please merge posts rather than separate them. Esp when the lodgement is only 5 minutes apart and there are no follow on posts from other forum users.

[mysterious]

I dont agree with that. A good deal of threads are in the military equipment and related forums. I'm with Webbie here as recently I've been feeling tired of posting in Indo-Pak threads just cuz of all the heated stuff that goes on in there. I need a break! Hope these 10 days work out well for me to rest my mind and concentrate on doing some work for the Weapons DB section. :smokingc:

[WebMaster]

Its only for testing purposes, we will go back to normal in 10 days. Relax.

[WebMaster]

Pak India topics on freeze again until further notice.

DO NOT POST ANY MORE PAK INDIA TOPICS in Political or Flash Points.

POST ONLY if topic is related to AIRFORCE, ARMY, NAVY or other MILITARY related.

Continue discussions in the existing topics, otherwise post topics NOT related to pak/India for a change!!!

[gf0012-aust]

Pak India topics on freeze again until further notice.

DO NOT POST ANY MORE PAK INDIA TOPICS in Political or Flash Points.

POST ONLY if topic is related to AIRFORCE, ARMY, NAVY or other MILITARY related.

Continue discussions in the existing topics, otherwise post topics NOT related to pak/India for a change!!!

Matey, you aren't getting a tad frustrated are you?? ;)

[WebMaster]

Well, this constant baby sitting and direction to some members on how to discuss/debate/give respect to get some speeches is just too much.

[The Watcher]

Is this still in place or what?

[mysterious]

I have no idea! PM Webbie to get confirmation. :smokingc:

[WebMaster]

It is for Flash Points and Political topics. Post with caution!

[WebMaster]

Looks like we need another freeze.? :roll

:cry

Theres more to defence than just india and pakistan guys!

[gf0012-aust]

Looks like we need another freeze.? :roll

:cry

Theres more to defence than just india and pakistan guys!

I agree, some of the ugly side of nationalism is creeping back in.

I've got no desire to get back into a parental supervision role.

I think it's important that some of the new posters (and even some returning ones) actually read the forum rules.

[srirangan]

I still believe a freeze is never the solution. Their will always be region threads so a sorting of forums like on [thats nice] is best suited. Like it or not, more people are and will always be attracted to geo-politics than technical defence issues.

[EnigmaNZ]

Personally I want to see debate, information from the rest of the world as well, this may be a global forum, but you'd swear it was a Pak/Ind one after reading the posts. Where is south america, europe, japan, russia, china, taiwan etc How many come here, think it is a pak/ind site and leave, I almost did myself.
The other thing is the "best of' you know the result before you read it, if it is pakistani, you know that as most posters seem to be pakistani, that it will be top of the heap. If these forums were mostly american I would expect everything made in the US to top the vote.
I know the posters are proud of their countries acomplishments, and ifs thats the reason for the posts, fine, but ifs it only a tit for tat between the pak/ind posters, vis a vis my country etc is better than yours, then I am not interested personally.

[chaoticsensatio]

guys. Its not just about India and Pakistan defence matter, its rather about the current trends in the active strategic warfare and future strategic opportunities in that region that are affecting the world greatly. India and Pakistan are the key players in that region. for example US war on terror is coordinated by Pakistan and the position of Pakistan is indespensible in that case. that from the active warfare point of view, the future prospects are to carter china and Iran. In that perspective to gain the support of Pakistan is very important for the US. but even if US gains the support and trust of Pakistan by lifting all the sanctions Pakistan is no way in postion to face china openly, here comes the India. India need to be equipped with the alteast comparative tech to china as to counter its military power. which is not possible if India and Pakistan keep on fighting.

Therefore guys we are talking about one worlds biggest economy , biggest standing military power. and I am pretty sure the you guys also use things of everday use that are made in china. so its not a matter of just India Pakistan defence. its a global issue that is gona affect each and every country's foriegn policy and economic ties. In my oppinion to put a freeze is un just or simply like closing your eyes on the most important senario in the world.

[WebMaster]

Locked down... until further notice (we'll unlock india pak topics once we feel it is the right time...) please don't OPEN any new topics on India and Pakistan.

[KGB]

An editorial in Tima magazine suggested that India and Pakistan will not engage in any major conflicts in the future. There may be relatively small scale actions, but the editorial argue, but nuclear weapons have kept the peace between the 2 countries.

[aaaditya]

i noticed that some india threads have been closed and no reasons have been given,there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with them ,as a member of this forum i think i have the right to know why this has been done,wether there is any technical problem and when the threads will be reopened?

[WebMaster]

Indo-Pak threads are locked every now and then just to control some of the useless replies that they get. Also, it keeps the threads on the cool side.

The reason why a reason wasn't given is that we are pretty much used to this now... but threads will be opened soon. If you have something to add (like an article or a report) just send my self or one of the moderators a PM and let them know so thread can be opened (when it is locked).

[dronzer]

hey web can i start a friendly thread on kashmir issue please ,If it is un controlabe then you can cancle the thread.This thread will actualy will assess the opinion of indo -pak people not a war.:unknown

[WebMaster]

No! I don't think so. Kashmir is a sensitive topic and it only brings extreme blind nationalist views which are often cause of problems.

[dronzer]

No! I don't think so. Kashmir is a sensitive topic and it only brings extreme blind nationalist views which are often cause of problems.

then where can we talk this topic.I can under stand the problems associated with it.May be in the near future can we talk about it

[WebMaster]

You can go here for political issues/topics:

http://www.globaltalknetworks.com/forums

Enjoy!