Defencetalk.com Weapons Database (DB) section

[WebMaster]

This is regarding an idea from "pathfinder-x" in this thread:

http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1819

The weapons database idea was approved :roll and is under development but it needs some serious help as far as content is concerned.

Who can help us take charge of this section, manage it, add content, etc. ?

http://www.defencetalk.com/wdb

As you can see, it doesn't have much. AD, GF and others have offered to help where they can but need few people to really go after it. The more knowledge you have about defence/military matters the better. Do not worry about design or working with code or anything. ;) I will take care of that.

More info as questions pop up.

Enjoy!!!

[srirangan]

Do not worry about design or working with code or anything. wink I will take care of that.

Ah that was the part where I could help .. ohh well..

[WebMaster]

What can you do sri? You good with php? :D :P

[srirangan]

Pretty good. Using it for 3 years now, this link might help:
http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/SoftwareCoders/showBioInfo.asp?lngAuthorId=517531

[WebMaster]

:smokingc: Nice!!!

So what would you be willing to do? :D

[Pathfinder-X]

I have night school session until 11th, August and also a part time job. I don't have much time to fill in the weapon board. As soon as I'm done with my night sessions I'll start feeding in infos.

p.s I already filled in some info on land systems, but there is a problem with image posting, seems like you can't post it there.

[WebMaster]

No problem Path.

And thanks for putting the info in.

When doing this we want to make sure we keep some of the atributes consistent, such as:

-Font
--size
--style
--heading, etc

-layout

As far as picture uploading, I haven't figured that out yet my self so as soon as I do will let you know. :D

[SABRE]

Hmm.....I dont think I ll be much help on this cause of scarce time but I know I computer guy who is good at DB, web designing, Php (has made about 5 forums on VBulliten for different companies). He seems free now days, I think he ll be more than willing to help you ppl out regarding upgrading any thing on this forum even the DataBase, he can even make a GUI DB for you with Oracl and upload on this forum with out putting much of a load. The only problem with him would be that he is not interested in Defence issues, he doesnt knw any thing except that Pak have army and PAF has F-16s :D: .
If u want him I can contect him but u will have to provide him with some one who know very much on defence & wapons.

[WebMaster]

Backend doesn't require knowledge about defence but backend programing. :D He only needs to know what he knows for this purpose. ;)

You can ask him if you want.

Remember, all work is voluntary.

[srirangan]

So what would you be willing to do?

Hmm, considering that I won't have any college till 2nd week of August, I'ld prolly do anything.. ;) ofcourse voluntarily.. :P

[WebMaster]

Okay, cool.

I will send you PM soon. ;)

[Soldier]

I wish I could do something for the board, but am not a software guy and more of a broadband guy.

[WebMaster]

Well, Soldier:

You can help manage it. Say act like an "editor" or something but that would mean a lot of people putting info in which would need approval, etc. We will figure out a way for you to help. :D

[Soldier]

Well, Soldier:

You can help manage it. Say act like an "editor" or something but that would mean a lot of people putting info in which would need approval, etc. We will figure out a way for you to help. :D

I always will be happy webmaster. Please let me know when you want me to get started..
my regards

[srirangan]

Okay, cool.

I will send you PM soon. ;)

Cool!

[WebMaster]

Thanks to Srirangan for this:

http://www.defencetalk.com/wdb

Layout changed.

:)

[mysterious]

Sleak stuff. :smokingc:

[srirangan]

Cheers!

I still see some small nigles in the layout, will work on'em.

[WebMaster]

Good news!

Some type of integration of Weapons DB is underway with gallery software. As soon as that comes out we will implement it.

I am not sure if Sri would be able to do this? Feeding pictures from specific album in the gallery into specific (of same type) content on DB page?

[WebMaster]

Okay, first: Can I get the names of the people interested in helping and being part of this?

Since the WDB is an open section, only editors/admins would need the user ID and thats why I need names so I can make those IDs. ALL mods will be part of this in one way or the other. So, any non-mods interested?

2nd, we may have to divide up the role of each user (who does what, etc).

Content Feeders (adding content)
Editors (adding content, approving other content/publishing other content submitted by users (content feeders).
Administration (do some more stuff plus whatever editors and content feeders can)

You may take up multiple roles if you wish.

When adding content, please keep these in mind:

-Font Style
--ARIAL

-Font Size
-- 2 (10 pt)

(right click where you are adding content > select ALL and then change the font for everythign or the size.)

Sources go at the very bottom. Like this

Source: whatever.com

As I said until a more user friendly appraoch comes out for gallery integration, we will have to do this if you want to insert pictures of specific equipment:

Say for example you want to add pics on F-16.

You will go into the gallery, click on F-16 album, highlight few pics and paste them after the "source" and that will look something like this:

http://www.defencetalk.com/wdb/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=8&Itemid=26
Scroll to the bottom.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

Thanks, enjoy!!!

[Soldier]

Count me in....Webmaster.

[mysterious]

I've already talked to you about this Webbie. I'm in. :smokingc:

[srirangan]

Webmaster,

As far as integration is concerned, it should be possible. But I'll need to study the gallery and wdb systems and their db schemas before I can commit anything.

[WebMaster]

Srirangan,

Not a problem.

Check PM!

[Pathfinder-X]

I'll add and edit contents on land systems. I ain't no expert on computers so I'll just stick to what I know about tanks and armour vehicles.

And how about adding a small arms section to land system, a missile section for air and naval system??

[WebMaster]

Will Do path. Also, follow the format (text size, style, etc) which is found in

-Air systems
--Fighters
---F-16

We should be good. :D

[srirangan]

Web, will talk to you about this tonight IST. We should be able to work it out, rather quickly.. ;)

[WebMaster]

CoOoL!

[WebMaster]

And how about adding a small arms section to land system, a missile section for air and naval system??


I was wondering about going on a bit different track for these.

Currently we have:

Airsystems,
Land Systems,
Naval Systems

I wanted to add:

Missile Systems < under them and then have sub categories like this:

-Missile Systems
--Surface to Surface
--Air to Air
--Air to Surface
--Naval

What do you think? Or would it be easier for you if it was under Land Systems? Then, It will be hard to divide them up in sub categories.

[srirangan]

Nah I like missiles to be seperated from Land. We can add a SPACE category too imho.

[Salman78]

If i can be of any help then do let me know.

I guess what would work best for me is that i'll send in some content and the mods can decide if they want to put it up there.

but if i can be of any specific help then i am all ears

[WebMaster]

Salman, how would you like to help?

[WebMaster]

WDB is down for maintenance.

We need writers to write original content for that section. Anyone willing to write a brief history of military equipment and providing specs?

[Pathfinder-X]

it's not gonna be easy, I only had experience of riding in some vehicle in the canadian army. Other than that I don't know what to write. So unless we got some expert from R&D industry, i don't think it's gonna work.

[mysterious]

Looks like Gary is in the crunch for bigtime! ;)

[Pathfinder-X]

How about we gather the info from other source and type out the specs and info in our own words?? That should take care of the copyright problems. But it's gonna take alot longer to built up the weapon section, however it would add tremendous amount of credits to our site since not many others have their own data base.

[WebMaster]

Thats what I was thinking. This means a lot of people will have to pinch in and help out. :help :help :help

Capabilities of the equipment are well known and all we have to do is repharase it in better terms. :D

[Pathfinder-X]

So when do we start??? I can start typing as soon as I finish night school near mid August.

[Oqaab]

I think should first add specs of aircrafts, like Combataircraft.com. The details should be given afterwards (whoever is interested in writing article).


Howzzzat !!!

[WebMaster]

Fine with me if you want to add specs. ;) They are pretty universal and no cr issues either. :D

[WebMaster]

Pathfinder-x is heading this project. Who wants to help out?

[redsoulja]

i wanna help out with the pics and movies webs can i?

[WebMaster]

redsoulja, I appreciate the interest but in this topic we are only concerned with DT's Weapons Database:

http://defencetalk.com/wdb

Let us know if you can help with that.

[Pathfinder-X]

I'm heading the weapon database team. Anyone interested please PM me or add me to their msn messenger LD871111@hotmail.com. I'm looking for members who can contribute on a regularly basis and have a fair amount of knowledge in defence(military background prefered). We need at least 5 members constantly adding and updating info to the database to make this work.

Note that we won't do copy and paste from other defence sites. We are coming up with our own articles to avoid copyright issues.

[SABRE]

I think should first add specs of aircrafts, like Combataircraft.com. The details should be given afterwards (whoever is interested in writing article).


Howzzzat !!!

Me too help with this. Only aircrafts n their specs....If m useful count me in.

[WebMaster]

This is a major project and I would appreciate if people who are offering assistance stick to it til the end. :) By no means do we want you to give up normal day to day activities but do ask for little bit time devoted to this project so we can stay on top of it and stay current with regular updates.

[mysterious]

I'm always there. If DT team finds me of any help, you can ask me for it for the weapons DB and I'll be glad to give some input as well. :smokingc:

[SABRE]

Ok so webs, pathfinder-x name the team. "(m in too)

[Pathfinder-X]

Team members at this point is me(Land Section), highsea(Naval section), srirangan(Coding and layout), corsair and sabre(Haven't been assigned to a section). Also gf will help proof read and edit wrong contents. Additional members welcome.

We now have our very first own article on Air system section on JF-17. Have a look.

http://defencetalk.com/wdb/content/view/32/26/

I can already tell this is going to work! :)

[WebMaster]

Thanks Path.

That article was written by Oqaab, our news editor. :D Very nicely written and presented.

There maybe other team members added from my sources. The person who wrote this article on JF-17 will also contribute to DB section:

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_1492.shtml

We need to organize this effort and plan it well for it to be successfull.

[gf0012-aust]

There's an error in the article.

It's a Klimov RD-93 engine - not a Kilmov RD-93

:)

[Pathfinder-X]

Thank you gf, the errors have now been corrected.

We'll need more team members to keep the database up to date. In the future the team might be double its current size.

Webs do you mind if I ask some guys in China-defense.com to help out with this? There are few guys in there that seems to know their stuff.

[WebMaster]

Hell yeah, anyone you can get. They do not have to be members of this forum in order to help. :) Get them on.

[mysterious]

If I would be able to help in anyway, let me know! :smokingc:

[WebMaster]

Myst, what can you do?

[Pathfinder-X]

Would you like to join the team myst? I can give you either naval or missile section in the database.

[mysterious]

What can I do? I'd say its more about what 'you' guys want me to do about the project and which aspect of it to work with. I'd pick the missiles section; howzzat?

[Pathfinder-X]

Can you write articles on missile specs since you chosen the missile section? Doesn't have to be as good as Oqaab's JF-17 article found here in the below link, but same layout.

http://defencetalk.com/wdb/content/view/32/26/

[mysterious]

Yup I can try doing that. You can let me know what all missiles would be included in this missile section. Only ballistic or others as well? :smokingc:

[WebMaster]

All of you who are in the team should be able to see the forum Weapons DB in the forum list. We will discuss organizational and whatever planning is put into this in that forum.

If you are seriously and sincerely interested in taking up this project with us, post in this thread to gain access. YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, you can't just say and then not do anything.

[mysterious]

So, whats my access I.D. and password for the Weapons DB section? :roll

[santpaul]

hey if u guys still need help on the DB program I'm willing to help

[WebMaster]

Yes, we do.

Thanks for coming forward.

Pathfinder will contact you soon.

[santpaul]

yes pathfinder contacted me and I e-mailed the sample article to Pathfinder

[WebMaster]

Santpaul, that is fine. We don't need to post details here. Lets use private messaging for communication.

[santpaul]

fine with me;)

[santpaul]

don't want to be a headache but How do I know I'm in DB team???

[mysterious]

I guess when either Webs or Path tells you. :P

[WebMaster]

Santpaul, that is fine. We don't need to post details here. Lets use private messaging for communication.

This is pretty clear.... please take heed. I don't really want to lock this thread. :rolleyes:

PS: When its directed towards Admins and Mods and you know that only Admins or mods can reply to such queries, it would be better to just leave it alone instead of posting a reply just for sake of posting a reply. Chances are a mod or my self saw the reply but choose not to reply back as it creates chain of repies afterwards, which I don't really want to do in this thread or forum. If you really want to post do it in forums designated for theme of the website.

[ajay_ijn]

How would u solve the problem of different versions of a Weapon System.

For example T-72 has number of versions and Many countries buy it from Russia and make their own upgraded versions of T-72.Some other foreign countries offer upgrade packages to the T-72.
If all this are included,the article would become really big.

Nuclear and Space Weapons were not there in DB.Why is that??


Another problem is A Missile will have Air to Surface and Surface to Air Versions then in which it will be specified???

For joining DB Team,Will one need to have Complete info on weapon Systems becoz i dont know anything beyond that is given in Web.

I do want to help,but the problem is I don't spend much time on my Computer and suddenly if I become busy due to exams or some other reason.
Is there some deadline for submitting the article??
I am not perfect in English Language,there will be some grammar and spelling mistakes.

[mysterious]

You have raised a good question. I will discuss it with Path and let you know. In the meantime, if someone else wants to answer this, they're welcome.

[WebMaster]

Weapons DB section gets it's own domain:

http://www.weaponsystems.info

Ajay, your questions will be replied to shortly. ;)

[srirangan]

Hey man, how much did the .info cost? I've seen some folks provide an .info domain for ridiculously low prices ie. < $2

[WebMaster]

I think, it was $2.88.

[WebMaster]

This section has been moved here:

CLICK ME (http://www.defencetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=26)

Enjoy!

[ajay_ijn]

Weapons DB section gets it's own domain:

http://www.weaponsystems.info

Ajay, your questions will be replied to shortly. ;)
7 months are over when the posted those questions.

[WebMaster]

I thought, pathfinder did get back to you on those questions? :o

[highsea]

Ajay, I will try to answer some of your questions. Feel free to PM me if you need more details.
How would u solve the problem of different versions of a Weapon System.

For example T-72 has number of versions and Many countries buy it from Russia and make their own upgraded versions of T-72.Some other foreign countries offer upgrade packages to the T-72.
If all this are included,the article would become really big.Make one article for the baseline version. We can list other versions and operators in the article, and hot link to them in the future as the DB gets more developed.
Nuclear and Space Weapons were not there in DB.Why is that?? We can add this anytime, if we haven't already, but right now let's concentrate on the main systems- i.e. Air, Land and Sea.
Another problem is A Missile will have Air to Surface and Surface to Air Versions then in which it will be specified???Create an article for the baseline version, we can add links to variants later. If you want to write up both at the same time, go ahead, but keep the sections separate in the article so we can split them up and cross reference the articles as necessary.
For joining DB Team,Will one need to have Complete info on weapon Systems becoz i dont know anything beyond that is given in Web. No, you don't. We need to stay with open source data anyway. When that data is in pubic domain factsheets, we will use it directly. We just need to avoid copyright violations.
I do want to help,but the problem is I don't spend much time on my Computer and suddenly if I become busy due to exams or some other reason.
Is there some deadline for submitting the article??
I am not perfect in English Language,there will be some grammar and spelling mistakes.We will spellcheck and factcheck. There are no deadlines, this is a volunteer project. All we are looking for is for some steady progress.

Anyone else wih questions, or who would like to participate, please send me a PM.