View Full Version : My design of a Future PAF Fighter.
P.A.F
June 3rd, 2004, 03:18 PM
http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=11&pos=0
took me about 3 weeks to do.
comments please.
WebMaster
June 3rd, 2004, 03:21 PM
Please see this:
http://defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16148#16148
So you will display pics like this:
http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/albums/userpics/thumb_PAF.jpg (http://defencetalk.com/pictures/displayimage.php?pos=-3035)
[url=http://defencetalk.com/pictures/displayimage.php?pos=-3035][img]http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/albums/userpics/thumb_PAF.jpg[/img][/url]
P.A.F
June 3rd, 2004, 03:28 PM
thanx for the advice
P.A.F
June 3rd, 2004, 03:29 PM
Well........ any comments
WebMaster
June 3rd, 2004, 05:36 PM
Excellent effort. Try using some professional drawing software to make. MS Paint does not offer as much features as other drawing Softwares. ;)
adsH
June 3rd, 2004, 06:18 PM
looks liek a blend of F-16+J-10+SU27+Mirage2005
Good effort brilliant mix of design
Revival_786
June 4th, 2004, 12:26 AM
Very nice!!!
Try to make the plane more longer... right now it looks as if it just hatched aww :D
mysterious
June 4th, 2004, 02:41 AM
Good for a late night dream I'd say! Too difficult to convert 'that' design to reality as its taking too much stuff from too many other platforms! :cop
Pathfinder-X
June 4th, 2004, 02:56 AM
good design but it looks like a F-16 got hammered short.
tatra
June 4th, 2004, 09:38 AM
Well........ any comments
Quite frankly, I would rather see genuine military images.
P.A.F
June 4th, 2004, 10:31 AM
i would prefer if you comment on the picture. :cop
tatra
June 5th, 2004, 07:32 AM
i would prefer if you comment on the picture. :cop
I'm sure you would but I won't because that would only encourage you and that's not what I want to do. :roll
Red aRRow
June 5th, 2004, 07:45 AM
Tatra that's just mean.
Good effort P.A.F. Keep it up!
lamdacore
June 5th, 2004, 08:01 AM
quite interesting but it might look better if you use flash
srirangan
June 5th, 2004, 09:41 AM
The design seems heavily influenced by the Flanker design. It'd nose seems a bit longer than required though. Is it just your design of a fighter, or are you sure it will be a future fighter for the PAF? :?:
P.A.F
June 5th, 2004, 09:48 AM
It's just my design. Made up. ;) you never know one day it could be an aircraft. i can easily just send a copy of it to CAC and see what they have to say about it. i've sent it to BAe but have not had a reply yet.
srirangan
June 5th, 2004, 09:54 AM
hey good luck then!
you must work on the design of the main frame too, and tell them how the engine's gonna be integrated with the build.
Aussie Digger
June 5th, 2004, 10:05 PM
Interesting, the top view looks very similar to a single engined Rafale to me, front on it looks like an F-16 and side on it appears to be an F-16/SU-27 hybrid. Is it a good design for the air intakes to be inclined back like that? Every jet I've ever seen with intakes like that (F-14, F-15, Mig 25, SU-27/30, Tornado, Super Hornet etc) have their intakes swept forwards. Still it boasts a good number of hardpoints, nice high cockpit to ensure good visibility for the pilot. I'm not sure single-engined fighters are a good idea though, the thrust and reliability of 2 engines outway the fuel consumption and weight penalty in my view, The nose seems a bit too rakish as well. You want a nice big "nose" to allow you a decent radar. Radar Aperture size (and hence range, capability etc) is constrained by the size of the "nose" on the aircraft. Look at the F-15 or SU-27/30. They are both massive fighter aircraft with 2 engines and big noses (and thus big powerful radars) and conversley are also the most combat capable fighters currently available. Not a bad effort anyway. Cheers.
adsH
June 5th, 2004, 11:25 PM
Well........ any comments
Quite frankly, I would rather see genuine military images.
People that work hard and don't make it Any where either become great teachers or your worst nightmare!! which one are you tatra seems like you know what you are!!
and genuine is what you believe inn, discouraging others would only put you deeper into the cycle of destruction that you already seam to be spiraling down into. Its people like you, in history that have discouraged great minds from progressing. Albert Einstein was discouraged in his childhood but he stuck with what he believed in and made it through !!!!
"P.A.F" keep up the Good work stick with it You'll get far if you realy wan't to, some one told me once that "if there is a Will there is a Way"
mysterious
June 6th, 2004, 04:18 AM
Someone in here just said the design looks like heavily influenced by a "Flanker"! Hello?? Which angle of that design is 'heavily' from the Flanker? Its a mix-up of the F-16, J-10 and a Mirage (with a slight 'hint' of the Flanker), I'd say. :smokingc: Good job P.A.F.
corsair7772
June 6th, 2004, 04:37 AM
Adsh is rite. u ppl can go make ur own designs if u can cum up wid sumthin bttr.
Anyway use a bttr software to make the design. Itll look much more bttr in dat.
gf0012-aust
June 6th, 2004, 05:34 AM
Adsh is rite. u ppl can go make ur own designs if u can cum up wid sumthin bttr.
Anyway use a bttr software to make the design. Itll look much more bttr in dat.
Has your keyboard stuffed up? You're missing vowels in a lot of your words? Or are you SMS/Text typintg??
P.A.F
June 6th, 2004, 06:25 AM
SPECIFICATIONS
Crew: One
Wingspan: 10.00 m
Length: 14 m
Height: 4.90 m
Weight: Empty 5,802 kg; Normal take-off: 9,500 kg; Max take-off 15,700 kg; Max weapon payload 4,600 kg
Maximum Weapon Load: 3,900kg
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.1
Range: Ferry range 4,500 km; Operational Radius 2,152 km
Service Ceiling: 20,500 m
Maximum Climb Rate: N/A
+G Limit: 8.5
11 hard points. 1 on each wing tip. 3 under each wing (only air to air or air to surface missiles. 1 fuel tanks on the bottom of each inlet. and finally a multi purpose hard point at the bottom of the fusealage for use of and PAF weapon. (nuke capable) :D
Made up specs lol. :D
corsair7772
June 8th, 2004, 02:03 AM
lol we figured. :D
srirangan
June 8th, 2004, 06:49 AM
lol
umair
June 9th, 2004, 02:03 PM
Just lengthen the fuselage PAF.It looks like an F-16 XL shrunk down.
Plus the wings should in my opinion have a bit of a kink or a curved leading edge blended into the fuselage with the canards springing from the leading edge somewhere close to the pilot's position.Also add some stabalisation strakes beneath the rear fuselage.
If any body can visualise my suggestions, please coment?(sarcasm not welcome)
P.A.F
June 9th, 2004, 02:24 PM
I'll try my best ;)
AIR FIGHTER
June 12th, 2004, 04:39 PM
very very fine effort keep it up.and make more air crafts pictures. :cop
Oqaab
June 12th, 2004, 06:11 PM
P.A.F,
Great effort, but which engine will the aircraft use ?
weapon payload 4,600 kg
Maximum Weapon Load: 3,900kg
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.1
The specifications indicate that the aircraft is using Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engine, generating 39,000 pounds of thrust.
srirangan
June 13th, 2004, 01:15 AM
Common its just a drawing made in MS Paint, why are we talking about engine and other specs? If we should be concerned about anything, that should be the amount of drag generated while in cruise by this design.
Deltared075
June 13th, 2004, 09:41 PM
SPECIFICATIONS
Crew: One
Wingspan: 10.00 m
Length: 14 m
Height: 4.90 m
Weight: Empty 5,802 kg; Normal take-off: 9,500 kg; Max take-off 15,700 kg; Max weapon payload 4,600 kg
Maximum Weapon Load: 3,900kg
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.1
Range: Ferry range 4,500 km; Operational Radius 2,152 km
Service Ceiling: 20,500 m
Maximum Climb Rate: N/A
+G Limit: 8.5
11 hard points. 1 on each wing tip. 3 under each wing (only air to air or air to surface missiles. 1 fuel tanks on the bottom of each inlet. and finally a multi purpose hard point at the bottom of the fusealage for use of and PAF weapon. (nuke capable) :D
Made up specs lol. :D
There are some unrealistic about the drawing
1. The wing area too wide! too many drag!
2. Below 6000kg? you need technology in 30 years future!
3. Operational radius 2152km?? I wonder how much fuels it can carry!
4. G limit +8.5? all new generation fighter have G limit above +9!
P.A.F
June 17th, 2004, 08:11 AM
it's just a joke/dream man. take it easy. ;)
Uzman
June 17th, 2004, 11:44 AM
lol....give this design to PAF and keep it classified..lol
any ways superb design....try if it can be done on a graphic software ... tht would be more like it...
P.A.F
June 17th, 2004, 12:32 PM
thats what i'm currently doing at the moment mate. should be finished in a few more weeks. thanx.
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