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dabrownguy
April 8th, 2004, 02:23 PM
Army unveils plan to equip infantryman for tomorrow's wars
The plan, termed 'F-INSAS' (Future Infantry Soldier as a System), is based on the prevailing trends which indicate 'infantry-centric' pattern of warfare will predominate in the present and even for the foreseeable future at all strategic, operational and tactical levels, the Director General Infantry Lt Gen K Nagaraj said here.
'F-INSAS' is designed to enhance the survivability, lethality and the mobility of a soldier,' he said, n a presentation on the concluding day of the Army-Industry Partnership Meet-2003 here yesterday.
A modular weapon system, an integrated helmet assembly, a portable computer-radio, protective clothing and other individual equipment form the components of the F-INSAS, Lt Gen Nagaraj said, stressing that a basic postulate of the plan is the soldier's interest.
''We do not intend to burden the soldier. We are looking at a maximum total weight of 20 to 25 kg for all this equipment,'' he pointed out.
Listing the other infantry modernisation programmes being undertaken globally like the US 'Land Warrior: the First Integrated Soldier Fighting System for Dismounted Infantrymen,' the German 'Future Infantryman System' (IdZ), the French 'Fassin a equipment et liasons integres' (FASIN) and the British 'Future Integrated Soldier Technology' (FIST), which differs from the previous in focussing on an infantry section in the dismounted close combat role than an individual soldier, he said all these sought to use 'cutting edge technologies' for the automated, electronic battlefield of the future.
Scientific advisor to the defence minister has indicated that a project to implant chips on soldiers will be demonstrated in two years.
He said this entire kit would not cost very much and would enhance the performance of the soldier operating in low intensity conflict scenario and save his life in case of injury.
This would be achieved by a vest, fitted with communication systems and mini-radio network, now being developed by the DRDO.
Similarly, the US had shown keen interest in learning from India's experience in bio-medical sciences and environmental physiology.
India was perhaps the only country in the world where its soldiers performed military operations in as varied terrain as burning deserts and freezing glaciers.
The two countries had also agreed to cooperate in the development of a vaccine for biologicial warfare.
The DRDO had developed the expertise in countering chemical warfare, including detection kits and personal and collective protection for soldiers in a nuclear environment.
A high-powered Government body had given the go-ahead to the DRDO to store such chemical agents at designated spots all over the country. However Dr Atre refused to divulge details about their exact location.
Elaborating upon the advances made by the DRDO in the field of life sciences Dr Atre said the DRDO would offer 18 pharma products to the country's pharmaceutical majors on Wednesday with free technology transfer.
These products include carbogen, a mixture of oxygen and carbon dioxide gas to minimise adverse effects of noise on the hearing system, herbal protector against radiation and processed food products, he said.
ndian troops to go hi-tech soon
April 07, 2004 22:13 IST
Under an "aggressive" modernisation drive, the army is acquiring latest gadgets so that it can be on par with the armed forces of developed countries.
Ballistic helmets, equipped with infrared night-vision devices and strong torchlights, are currently under trial and can soon become a part of the soldier's dress, Director General of Ordnance Services Lt Gen R S Shahrawat said in New Delhi on Wednesday.
The army is also contemplating equipping soldiers with global positioning system on watches, which will help in identifying soldiers' locations.
The overall uniform and footwear of the troops will also be upgraded, Gen Shahrawat said.
"Some of the equipment planned to be inducted is under trial to check their performance and see whether these meet our requirements," he said.
The government has also cleared acquisition of more bullet-proof jackets and helmets for troops involved in counter-terrorism operations in Jammu and Kashmir and the Northeast, he added.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/apr/07army.htm
WebMaster
April 8th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Your thread is going all over the place, with wrong link.
The least you can do is format the link properly so it does not stretch for miles across the screen!
lamdacore
April 13th, 2004, 06:27 AM
I usually don't trust the rediff. I think they fire their gun in one direction. BUT if the source is true, then we are about to see another technological race in south asia
adsH
April 13th, 2004, 10:19 AM
I usually don't trust the rediff. I think they fire their gun in one direction. BUT if the source is true, then we are about to see another technological race in south asia
Indo link seams to be very neutral some of the Pakistani news source happen to be very untrust worthy (a common problem with south east asian news websites)
mysterious
April 13th, 2004, 11:03 PM
My money would be in the opposite direction though as far as Indian and Pakistan websites are concerned but yeah Rediff is quite ok (after all, they were the ones to post the news of George Fernandes helping out Tamil Tigers which I used in my thread "India's Terrorist Minister"). :smokingc:
Roger Smith
April 17th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Today, I saw on TV Zee news about Indian army changes for its soldiers with night vision, computerized mapping, light sleeping bag, lighter weapons, better uniform etc., everything is compact and lighter equipment for future soldiers of the century. :smokingc:
adsH
April 17th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Today, I saw on TV Zee news about Indian army changes for its soldiers with night vision, computerized mapping, light sleeping bag, lighter weapons, better uniform etc., everything is compact and lighter equipment for future soldiers of the century. :smokingc:
What i find irritating is why Countries full of bureaucracies make a big deal out of this i mean yeah you need better weapons may be light if you have weak soldiers but just handing them sleeping bags thats Stupid if India cannot provide shelter to there forces (on the battle feild) then it shouldn't have so many Soldiers look at other western countries (appart form US) they all have Small Armies that they can train and regualry provide new Equipment. by spending on improving Soldier Living conditions on the feild has to be a priority (its like you shove them out in the feild on rainy cold area and expect them to be happy risking there lives and at the same time make them feel Not important!! becasue A superior Officer has a mobile tent or a cabin with heating/ Air condtioning!! And after all that you would Expect that the soldier to fight to his maximum. Its easy for people on TV to show that MR Happy Soldier has a sleaping bag a new gun and a small battle scren to keep him wondering what it does!!! but its actually realy hard when your out there risking your life trying to defend your nation. And not be appriciated Physically. I am sure the TV channels would have loads of messages from Film stars Ministers and Cricket star saying we admire your courage and support you and all, but those people are at there homes and they are sending that messages from there lavish palaces!! Words are empty Gestures !!!!
Aussie Digger
April 19th, 2004, 02:31 AM
Many countries are trying to develop "next generation" soldier combat systems based on the similar idea of enhancing the infantry soldier as a complete integrated weapon system rather than just a soldier. Australia has it's own Soldier Combat System that itis been working on for years. The biggest problem to date has been the weight of the equipment. It is simply not possible (yet) to integrate all the separate elements of this system, (including personal weapons, body armour, ballistic helmets, communications devices, day and night sighting systems, thermal imaging systems, support weapons [grenade launchers etc] command and control systems, health monitoring systems etc) into a package that still provides the infantry soldier with the mobility needed for his job.
Here's some pics of early Australian trials for this type of equipement.
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/lsd/land125/IMAGES/imgp0263.jpg
http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armynews/editions/1076/images/images600/wundurra.jpg
adsH
April 19th, 2004, 02:45 AM
Hey i can see the soldier with a guidance site (atleast i call it instead of you looking in through the guns view finder you just aim the weapon and fire i was plaaning to build one of these for my finale year project so i guess i just threw me back down (so i am no the only one who thought of that. in my design the LCD is in the form mini screen infornt of the eye to acquire a target as quickly as possible!!
Aussie Digger
April 19th, 2004, 11:52 PM
Sorry Adsh, you are not the only to have thought of this idea. Indeed it has been used operationally in helicopters for years. It will exist in most fighter aircraft within a few yeas too, most predominantly with the US Joint Helmet mounted cueing system. It has yet to make it into the field for normal infantry use as far as I know, but it won't be long, 5-10 years for most "major" army's I suppose.
adsH
April 20th, 2004, 12:04 AM
Sorry Adsh, you are not the only to have thought of this idea. Indeed it has been used operationally in helicopters for years. It will exist in most fighter aircraft within a few yeas too, most predominantly with the US Joint Helmet mounted cueing system. It has yet to make it into the field for normal infantry use as far as I know, but it won't be long, 5-10 years for most "major" army's I suppose.
Aussie my mate no problem i will think of something new i still have some time to plaan. lol :? :D
Aussie Digger
April 20th, 2004, 10:17 AM
What about designing a weapon that only has a stoppage when it runs out of ammunition, instead of having stoppages for all sorts of reasons?
adsH
April 20th, 2004, 10:55 AM
What about designing a weapon that only has a stoppage when it runs out of ammunition, instead of having stoppages for all sorts of reasons?
like a fully automatic self diagnostic weapon interesting !!±!
Aussie Digger
April 20th, 2004, 11:17 AM
Self diagnostic would be okay. The firing rate could be or should be selectable by the operator, with single round, 3 round burst and full automatic fire being the optimal settings for an assault rifle in my view. Single shot for those nice aimed shots at long range, 3 round burst for general engagements and full auto for those "whites of the eyes" close quarter combat scenario's, where the first to hit usually survives... The weapon should have at least 30 rounds in it's magazine, be of compact and lightweight design, yet rugged enough to survive prolonged operations in the bush. It should be designed to operate equally well regardless of environmental condition (Jungle, desert, snow or maritime conditions). It should be capable of accurate aimed fire up to around 400 metres, and should possess little recoil. It should possess an integral sighting system, to which enhancements (such as torches, laser aiming devices, thermal imagers or passive night sights, etc) can be easily attached, without requiring re-zeroing. It should be able to mount a bayonet or alternatively a 40mm grenade launcher or a short barrelled 12 gauge shot gun (for close quarter combat). This weapon should balance well and be simple in design (appearance) and operation. It should be easy to shoot and to learn to shoot and operate. The weapon should be able to be simply and quickly stripped and reassembled (even in darkness) and should not require significant attention to cleaning/maintaining etc. This weapon should be designed aspart of a series of weapons including a carbine/sub machine gun version, a normal assault rifle and a "light support weapon" (LSW) (Minimi type weapon). The LSW, should however possess a "belt fed" capacity, in addition to it's ability to use "normal" magazines. The LSW should also be accurate to around 800 metres and be capable of providing significantly higher volumes of fire than the other versions. The LSW also requires a "quick change barrel" facility, due to the problems of overheating, due to the extra firing capacity and may well require a heat shield in the fore grip area, to enable operation of this weapon for extended periods. The LSW should be available with a shortened barrel for Parachute or Special Forces operations This weapon should be cheap enough to mass produce, yet display a high level of quality, to inspire confidence in potential users. Now if you can fit all that into one weapon system you'll be doing very well...
adsH
April 20th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Self diagnostic would be okay. The firing rate could be or should be selectable by the operator, with single round, 3 round burst and full automatic fire being the optimal settings for an assault rifle in my view. Single shot for those nice aimed shots at long range, 3 round burst for general engagements and full auto for those "whites of the eyes" close quarter combat scenario's, where the first to hit usually survives... The weapon should have at least 30 rounds in it's magazine, be of compact and lightweight design, yet rugged enough to survive prolonged operations in the bush. It should be designed to operate equally well regardless of environmental condition (Jungle, desert, snow or maritime conditions). It should be capable of accurate aimed fire up to around 400 metres, and should possess little recoil. It should possess an integral sighting system, to which enhancements (such as torches, laser aiming devices, thermal imagers or passive night sights, etc) can be easily attached, without requiring re-zeroing. It should be able to mount a bayonet or alternatively a 40mm grenade launcher or a short barrelled 12 gauge shot gun (for close quarter combat). This weapon should balance well and be simple in design (appearance) and operation. It should be easy to shoot and to learn to shoot and operate. The weapon should be able to be simply and quickly stripped and reassembled (even in darkness) and should not require significant attention to cleaning/maintaining etc. This weapon should be designed aspart of a series of weapons including a carbine/sub machine gun version, a normal assault rifle and a "light support weapon" (LSW) (Minimi type weapon). The LSW, should however possess a "belt fed" capacity, in addition to it's ability to use "normal" magazines. The LSW should also be accurate to around 800 metres and be capable of providing significantly higher volumes of fire than the other versions. The LSW also requires a "quick change barrel" facility, due to the problems of overheating, due to the extra firing capacity and may well require a heat shield in the fore grip area, to enable operation of this weapon for extended periods. The LSW should be available with a shortened barrel for Parachute or Special Forces operations This weapon should be cheap enough to mass produce, yet display a high level of quality, to inspire confidence in potential users. Now if you can fit all that into one weapon system you'll be doing very well...
thats alot to-ask from a single weapon but i don't think i can do that on my own i was looking to join the MOD research dept they have research plans i might be able to get access (when i am chosen to work with them) to a MOD design or a rifle and then mod that with software and hardware but i would think the thing MOD has problem with is the fact the weapon that they use heats up too much so i guess cooling would be a priority. but i will see what i can do cheers for the list. hey while were going out with the sense why not add gps LCD eye-wear and Current generation communication useing wirless connectivity with each component.
Aussie Digger
April 21st, 2004, 12:46 AM
True but if somebody could design such a weapon, they'd sell millions... All of your suggestions and mine plus a powerpack of some sort basically makes up a soldier combat system doesn't it?
gf0012-aust
April 21st, 2004, 05:28 AM
True but if somebody could design such a weapon, they'd sell millions... All of your suggestions and mine plus a powerpack of some sort basically makes up a soldier combat system doesn't it?
Some of the functionality you talk about is achievable in weaps such as Metalstorm.
ie dial up, rate of fire, a capacity to go to a larger round through barrel swap out (as the barrel defines rounds used - not the trigger mechanism)
BruteGorilla
April 22nd, 2004, 06:00 AM
I usually don't trust the rediff. I think they fire their gun in one direction. BUT if the source is true, then we are about to see another technological race in south asia
Which are the other tech races in S. Asia?
Red aRRow
April 22nd, 2004, 06:07 AM
I usually don't trust the rediff. I think they fire their gun in one direction. BUT if the source is true, then we are about to see another technological race in south asia
Which are the other tech races in S. Asia?
Nuclear Race, Missile Race, The Arms Race etc. etc.
Now please stick to the topic of "Indian soldier of the future" because usually such questions start invoking nationalistic emotions in some of our right leaning members :roll . Thanks.
BruteGorilla
April 22nd, 2004, 06:27 AM
I usually don't trust the rediff. I .......another technological race in south asia
Which are..in S. Asia?
Nuclear .....Race etc. etc.
Now please stick to ......nationalistic emotions in some of our right leaning members :roll . Thanks.
Check the HTML quotes here. There is no technological race in S. Asia. Any why is it quoted that it happens only in S. Asia. Rest of the S. Asian neighbours are pathetic in technology. be it defence or any other sector.
Like all good militaries Indians too are trying to modernaise its forces. Once upon a time armoured and artillary regiments were modernised. Subsequently interactions with other armies in UN and Home IA takes steps to bring down the soldiers burden. Its hardly an south asian context. Why people see IA through the myopic S.Asian angle? IA is heavily involved worldwide. A light soldier is an internal descision and not based on other S. Asian prespective.
gf0012-aust
April 22nd, 2004, 07:12 AM
India is probably one of a dozen nations that are undertaking future combat modifications to their soldiers warfighting ability.
The only other nation in Sth East Asia that I am aware of undertaking such a prog is Singapore. You could add Australia, but our ASEAN neighbours tend to see us as part of Oceania.
BruteGorilla
April 22nd, 2004, 10:59 AM
:roll Right said GF0012.
gf0012-aust
April 23rd, 2004, 10:30 AM
I got the numbers wrong, there are at least 16 different future soldier programmes in play. This is the agenda for the annual conference.
Soldier Technology 2004, 21st - 23rd June 2004, Brussels, Belgium
31 Leading Soldier Modernisation Experts representing 16 Soldier Modernisation Programmes have elected to join the speaker faculty at Soldier Technology 2004, the latest of which is:
John Hutchings, Project Manager, Land 125 (WUNDURRA), DSTO, Australia
With the most comprehensive line-up of International Soldier Modernisation Programmes in the world this year, you cannot afford to miss out this unique opportunity to get the complete update on individual soldier systems within the world's leading military forces.
Leading speakers include:
Lieutenant Colonel Koos Meijer, Deputy Chair, NATO T/G 1 *
Lieutenant Colonel Andrew MacNaughton, Programme Manager, FIST, DCC IPT, DEFENCE PROCUREMENT AGENCY *
William Ullern-Manguin, Coherence Architect, DGA, FRANCE *
Major Marten Dankert, Project Officer, IDZ, GERMANY ARMY *
Lieutenant Colonel Dave Gallop, Product Manager, LAND WARRIOR, US ARMY *
Rune Lausund, Chief Scientist, FFI, NORWAY *
Lieutenant Colonel Giovanni Cappai, Manager, Combatente Futura, ITALY *
Lieutenant Colonel Mike Bodner, Section Head, Dismounted Close Combat, CANADIAN DEFENCE FORCES *
Dr Pieter Nel, Program Manager, AFRICAN WARRIOR, ARMSCOR *
Marten Lindgren, Project Manager, MARKUS, FMV *
Lieutenant Colonel Rick Adams, Project Officer, USMC Rifle Squad, USMC *
Major Jan Coupe, ProBEST, BELGIAN ARMY *
Lieutenant Colonel Henk Wendrich, Deputy Programme Manager, D2S2, RNLA *
Major John Bjergeggard, Project Manager, DANISH SMP, DANISH ARMY COMBAT SCHOOL *
Colonel Simon Deakin, IPT Leader Dismounted Close Combat, DEFENCE *
Lieutenant Colonel Jacques Levesque, Project Manager, Clothe The Soldier, (CTS), Program Management (DSSPM), CANADIAN NATIONAL DEFENCE HEADQUARTERS *
Now in its 4th successful year, Soldier Technology attracts over 220 delegates from across the world.
Once again, this year, the conference will focus on all the leading-edge information on soldier modernisation issues, programmes and technologies, including: INTEROPERABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY, SURVIVABILITY, LETHALITY, HUMAN FACTORS, TRAINING, MOUT, POWER MANAGEMENT, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, TESTING AND ASSESSMENT.
Deltared075
June 13th, 2004, 11:47 PM
How India future soldiers look like? any photo?
srirangan
June 14th, 2004, 01:08 AM
An intelligence report some months ago, said that the Indo-US are working together in the futuristic soldier model and the reason the US had military exercises in the mountainous Ladakh region and the tropical wet jungles of the north east were related to this futuristic soldier project.
Over the past 2 years the govt has spent huuge amounts over its jawaans including "auto-heating" foods, better modern clothings/rugsacks etc. The majority of spending of the DoD has been over its jawaan's over the past 3 years.
lalith prasad
June 14th, 2004, 04:20 AM
there is a photograph of this in the bharatrakshak forum thread is defenceindia.the girl who modellede for it is very pretty.dont forget to notice her and also notice the shape of the helmet it sort of looks strange providing lot of protection for the rear but not much for the front
srirangan
June 14th, 2004, 07:08 AM
The list of weapons systems that India is planning to buy from the US is already over two dozen and growing and they will come through “Foreign Military Sales" route, i. e. at the same rate the US military pays to defense firms in the US. One such system that has been publicly discussed is the Land Warrior System which will “transform the Indian jawan to futuristic soldier armed with miniaturized remote-monitoring, GPS systems, advanced communication gadgets and weapons platforms”.
RealIndian
July 18th, 2004, 06:39 PM
Ballistic helmet to be part of soldier's dress
NEW DELHI, APR 16 (PTI)
"Weather-friendly" uniform, hi-tech "ballistic helmet" and Global Positioning System (GPS)-fitted watches will soon become a part of the Indian soldiers' fatigue, putting them at par with the forces of the US and other developed countries.
Under an "aggressive" modernisation drive, the Army is aiming to reduce a soldier's carrying load and help him perform better in operations.
A "ballistic helmet" is an integrated gear fitted with infra-red night vision devices and communication system, besides being light weight and providing protective cover to larger part of the body," Deputy Master General Ordnance Maj Gen Vikram Madan told reporters today.
The helmet enables better functioning of a soldier as he can fire and communicate over the hands-free set at the same time unlike at present, Madan said as these gadgets were put on display for media here.
A GPS-fitted watch, which gives information regarding location, temperature and altitude of a place, will help a soldier during operations.
Besides, the quality of overall uniform and footwear of the troops is in for a change.
"The dress is to be made of weather-friendly fabric to suit Indian conditions so that a soldier feels more comfortable during operations," he said.
The combat fatigue of a soldier will also undergo a change, with the new dress being dope-dyed yarn woven into design, he said, adding it will be more "breathable" and "colour-fast" than that currently in use.
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=215480
RealIndian
July 18th, 2004, 06:49 PM
Army unveils plan to equip infantryman for tomorrow's wars
The plan, termed 'F-INSAS' (Future Infantry Soldier as a System), is based on the prevailing trends which indicate 'infantry-centric' pattern of warfare will predominate in the present and even for the foreseeable future at all strategic, operational and tactical levels, the Director General Infantry Lt Gen K Nagaraj said here.
'F-INSAS' is designed to enhance the survivability, lethality and the mobility of a soldier,' he said, n a presentation on the concluding day of the Army-Industry Partnership Meet-2003 here yesterday.
A modular weapon system, an integrated helmet assembly, a portable computer-radio, protective clothing and other individual equipment form the components of the F-INSAS, Lt Gen Nagaraj said, stressing that a basic postulate of the plan is the soldier's interest.
''We do not intend to burden the soldier. We are looking at a maximum total weight of 20 to 25 kg for all this equipment,'' he pointed out.
Listing the other infantry modernisation programmes being undertaken globally like the US 'Land Warrior: the First Integrated Soldier Fighting System for Dismounted Infantrymen,' the German 'Future Infantryman System' (IdZ), the French 'Fassin a equipment et liasons integres' (FASIN) and the British 'Future Integrated Soldier Technology' (FIST), which differs from the previous in focussing on an infantry section in the dismounted close combat role than an individual soldier, he said all these sought to use 'cutting edge technologies' for the automated, electronic battlefield of the future.
The page removed:http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG_full.asp?catcode=ENG3&mcode=National#34736
RealIndian
July 18th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Smart soldier technology on cards
Vedio
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/570548.cms
Scientific advisor to the defence minister has indicated that a project to implant chips on soldiers will be demonstrated in two years.
RealIndian
July 18th, 2004, 07:00 PM
DRDO developing 'smart packs' for Indian soldiers
New Delhi, Mar 23 (IANS) When Indian soldiers march into the battlefield a few years from now, they may be wearing "smart packs" that will enable commanders sitting thousands of kilometres away to monitor their exact position and even their life signs.
Under an ambitious project to be implemented with the US defence department, India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) will soon begin work on these smart packs.
"The packs will include light weapons, a smart vest with global positioning system, a combat radio transmitter, a compact antenna, a power pack, a cooling system and a life monitoring system," DRDO chief V.K. Aatre told reporters here Tuesday. "The soldier himself will become a system. This is a concept developed to meet the needs of a low intensity conflict." "The smart pack will allow commanders to know whether a soldier in the field is alive, wounded or dead. If he is wounded, efforts can be made to rescue him," said Aatre.
Research to develop the smart packs will cost hundreds of millions of rupees, but the individual packs would cost hundreds of thousands of rupees, he noted.
An Indo-US joint technical group recently agreed to begin work on the project, with the Americans providing expertise developed under their "Land Warrior" programme to develop similar smart packs.
In return, the DRDO will share with the US its wide-ranging expertise in dealing with health problems and stress faced by soldiers serving in areas with extreme weather conditions.
"The DRDO has extensive expertise in environmental physiology as we deal with problems faced by soldiers serving in regions ranging from high altitude areas like the Siachen glacier to deserts. We know how to improve human performance in extreme conditions," said Aatre.
Over the past decade, the DRDO has developed a unique range of medicines and treatments for illnesses faced by soldiers serving in places like Siachen, the world's highest and coldest battlefield where temperatures can dip below minus 50 degrees Celsius.
The joint technical group also decided to work jointly on developing vaccines to protect soldiers against biological warfare.
Aatre said the DRDO's extensive research to cater to the "physiological needs" of soldiers had led to the development of a wide range of herbal medicines and treatments to deal with phenomena like sound pollution and stress.
"Our molecular biology laboratory in Gwalior has developed quick response diagnostic kits for diseases like typhoid and sensors, antidotes and decontamination systems to deal with nuclear, biological and chemical warfare," he said.
"A field research laboratory in Leh has developed methods for growing fresh vegetables in frozen deserts while a food laboratory in Mysore has developed methods for preserving and packing foods that have been commercialised."
Bangalore-based MTR Foods Limited had acquired technology from DRDO to market a wide array of ready-to-eat meals, he said.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_635822,0004006.htm
manna
July 18th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Nice developements, but what worry here is that it has always beeen indians policy to acquire someupper edge in the region and then immediately pitch it against someone in the neighbour hood to full fill her billigirant ,hygmonic designs,and now with the involvement of USA in the region it is going to be a big truooble in this region , it is going to be unstablitized and at the brink of war ,
lets hope that this time this kind of system i mean infantry solidier as a system (INFSAS)is meant for peacefull purposes and not for any hygmonic design, though this system will still take years to com e, unless it is not buyed from someone,
May the region be safe from any unrest and the peace talks started between various contries meet the ultimate result , PEACE< so that the poor people of this region also get the chunk of the bounties of posistive developements in the life ,
gf0012-aust
July 18th, 2004, 09:13 PM
and now with the involvement of USA in the region it is going to be a big truooble in this region , it is going to be unstablitized and at the brink of war ,
How will the US break a local hegemony? (look at the geopolitics of the region, look at the US spheres of influence and look at the results if it goes awry, not exactly a recipe for intervention)
How does India have a hegemony? or conversely how does Pakistan?
India and Pakistan have been managing to keep each other alert for the last 39 years - how will the US suddenly upset that balance?
You imply that both countries will be unable to resist an interfering US - and that is unmitigated nonsense.
- 1, because the US has no capacity to interfere,
- 2, because the US does not want to immerse itself knee deep in another pile of merde when it's already pre-occupied elsewhere
I'd be curious to see how the US is able to geopolitically destabilise one of the most fragile regions in the world anyway - help is definitely not needed to do that. Kashmir is already a cluster. No amount of outside curiosity is going to make it worse than it currently is.
RealIndian
July 19th, 2004, 04:35 AM
This is not futuristic soldier tech but a simple modernization with ballistic helmet, infrared night vision, laser range finder, Passive Night Sight of INSAS Rifle, new bullet proof jacket, headphone, microphone & other communication gadgets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Rajch970386/Indian%20Army/3394138.jpg
Deltared075
July 19th, 2004, 09:48 AM
Yes, They can have the best equipments, but the problem is how many soldiers can have these equipments?
How can India army become high tech if bulk of the army were using old weapons?
santpaul
July 19th, 2004, 09:25 PM
what's that thing on INSAS rifle, is it a night sight?
Admin: 2 Posts merged. Please edit existing posts rather than post straight after another one. THis is not a numbers game to get your post count up.
brahmos
July 19th, 2004, 10:11 PM
there is a photograph of this in the bharatrakshak forum thread is defenceindia.the girl who modellede for it is very pretty.dont forget to notice her and also notice the shape of the helmet it sort of looks strange providing lot of protection for the rear but not much for the front
I couldn't find the link on Bharat Rakshak Forum. Please provide link
lalith prasad
July 20th, 2004, 02:34 AM
that looks like the mars third generation sight fitted generally used on the tavor assault rifles which india is acquiring from israel.
Deltared075
July 21st, 2004, 12:07 PM
:? That photo try to compare both soldier? since the left soldier have night vision, his rifle got sight, and new helmet. the right soldier have old helmet, his rifle don't have optical sight and don't have night vision.
But i think that equipment also very normal only, not so advance...
Salman78
July 22nd, 2004, 01:48 AM
Indian soilder will remain the same for atleast next 15 years. Maybe a few battalion size strength can be modernized on the western concept and used as spearheading force cause that hightech weaponary and equipment is way too expensive for south asian region.
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