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The real reason why Singapore have got such a strong armed forces is because Indonesia have never formally renounced in the Indonesian paliament Sukarno's declaration that Singapore and Malaysia is part of Indonesia.
Until today, the Indonesians still look north and thinks that both Malaysia and Singapore is part of Indonesia.
The real reason why Singapore have got such a strong armed forces is because Indonesia have never formally renounced in the Indonesian paliament Sukarno's declaration that Singapore and Malaysia is part of Indonesia.
Not sure about that but not only Indonesia but the Philippines was also against the formation of Malaysia. President Macapagal and Sukarno were keen on a loose federation of all 3 countries called MAPHLINDO but as mentioned in the previous posts, Indonesia is part of but NOT the only reason why Singapore has a strong armed forces and why it ensures it has a technological edge. It has been suggested that the reason Singapore bought the Iron Dome is because of concerns that a certain country [which publicly expressed an interest in Scuds in the early 1990's] might acquire in the future ballistic missiles and not because, as widely speculated in various forums, because Malaysia has 36 ASTROS MLRS.
Last edited by STURM; January 21st, 2012 at 08:20 AM.
Indonesian & Philippines objections to the formation of Malaysia were based mostly on their (mutually incompatible, because overlapping) wishes to grab or dominate all of Sabah, Sarawak & Brunei. I'm not aware of Sukarno ever laying claim to West Malaysia, though I stand ready to be corrected if anyone can point me to his words.
The Philippines claimed Sabah. Indonesia never really formulated a public policy, saying it didn't lay claim to any of the territory but calling it Kalimantan Utara, in line with the names of the Indonesian provinces in the rest of Borneo. Perhaps Sukarno hoped that a notionally independent North Borneo, or separate Sarawak, Brunei, & Sabah, could be dominated & eventually absorbed by Indonesia.
"Maphilindo" was seen as a loose association of states, based on the concept of a Malay race.
Indonesian & Philippines objections to the formation of Malaysia were based mostly on their (mutually incompatible, because overlapping) wishes to grab or dominate all of Sabah, Sarawak & Brunei. I'm not aware of Sukarno ever laying claim to West Malaysia, though I stand ready to be corrected if anyone can point me to his words.
The Philippines main objection to the formation of Malaysia was over its claim to Sabah, which was once part of the Sulu Sultanate. Whilst the Philippines is mostly quiet about it's claim at the moment, in the 1960's and 1970's there was serious concern in Malaysia about what Manila might do. A news leak in 1968 about guerillas being trained in a camp in Luzon by PA special forces, for infiltration to Sabah didn't help bilateral relations and PAF Sabres were also routinely overflying into East Malaysian airspace - with the Malaysians being able to do nothing about it except deploy a battery of Bofors. Indonesia's main objection was because of Sukarno's claim that a future Malaysian Federation was just another British imperialism attempt and maintaining a hold on its former colonies and because Indonesia, whilst told of the planned federation, was not consulted.
Last edited by STURM; January 21st, 2012 at 03:00 PM.
Not sure about that but not only Indonesia but the Philippines was also against the formation of Malaysia. President Macapagal and Sukarno were keen on a loose federation of all 3 countries called MAPHLINDO but as mentioned in the previous posts, Indonesia is part of but NOT the only reason why Singapore has a strong armed forces and why it ensures it has a technological edge. It has been suggested that the reason Singapore bought the Iron Dome is because of concerns that a certain country [which publicly expressed an interest in Scuds in the early 1990's] might acquire in the future ballistic missiles and not because, as widely speculated in various forums, because Malaysia has 36 ASTROS MLRS.
Can Iron Dome hit artillery shells and mortars ? Because that's all Malaysia will need to hit Singapore especially the air bases.
I think Singapore also has many A4s in storage which can still fly.
Can Iron Dome hit artillery shells and mortars ? Because that's all Malaysia will need to hit Singapore especially the air bases.
As you're no doubt aware, shutting down air bases is an extremely difficult thing to do, especially when those bases have contingency plans that factor in such an eventuality. Singapore anticipates that if the balloon goes up, any foe will do all it can to shut down the RSAF's air bases and as a result have made adequate preparations to deal with such an eventuality, including having adequate dispersals, airfield recovery/reconstruction teams, the ability to launch aircraft from certain roads, etc. True, most if not all of Singapore is within artillery range from the mainland, but Malaysia only operates a regiment of 155mm guns, the bulk of it's artillery are short range 105mm guns, a legacy of it's army's counter insurgency days.
Then again, Malaysia's main focus is on other areas, such as the Ambalat area where it has a dispute with Indonesia and it's clams in the Spratleys, not Singapore .
Last edited by STURM; January 22nd, 2012 at 07:58 AM.
Indonesian & Philippines objections to the formation of Malaysia were based mostly on their (mutually incompatible, because overlapping) wishes to grab or dominate all of Sabah, Sarawak & Brunei. I'm not aware of Sukarno ever laying claim to West Malaysia, though I stand ready to be corrected if anyone can point me to his words.
Soekarno never claim any Malaysian teritory. However he did not want to have land border with Malaysia, which he believes was just another ploy by British/Commonwealth collonialism to destabilised Indonesian Borneo in the future and his Indonesian Revolutionary movement, which he intend to spread scross the region and the rest of Third world as counter ballance againts Western Imperialism/Capitalism.
I never be a Soerkarnois, or supporter of his movement until now. Never believe on his revolutionary ideas, but one thing is clear. He's not an expantionist (which some western analyst tend to potrait him on his later days in power), but he's a Revolutioner, just like Castro.
What he's done with his subversive operations in Malaysian Peninsula and Singapore was no-more than effort to divide Malaysian public and administration plus British/Commonwelth forces as much as possible, thus will provide enough momentum for Sabah/Sarawak revolutionaries (with Indonesia help) to provide significant Armed challanges thus in the end provide enough incentive to the British to let Borneo Malaysia to secede and become Independent in order to protect more economically valuable Malaysian Peninsula and Singapore.
That's his basic believe and based on his thinking during 'konfrontasi' era. He's dream for Revolutionary Indonesia and Revolutionary Third World power, lead to economic bancruptcy and 'help' by some gross miscalculation by the communist, a chances that US waited so long to topple him by supporting more moderat elements in the Army.
In short, Soekarno was morethan happy for Independent Sabah and Sarawak, as long as it's control by a 'revolutionary' power which're anti Bristish/Commonwealth Imperialism, and Western Malaysia.
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