Saudi Air Force F-15S in Red Flag

eaf-f16

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Don't know if any of you saw this yet. Though I'd post it any ways.

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Four of eight F-15S Strike Eagles from the Saudi air force arrived shortly after 1:30 p.m. on a Nellis runway, while the other four scheduled to participate in a two-week Red Flag air combat training exercise were delayed by winter weather on the East Coast, said Saudi detachment commander Col. Ahmed Aseeri.

"They're on their way from Seymour Johnson," he said, referring to the North Carolina Air Force base where the planes arrived earlier this week.

Aseeri said that because the McDonnell Douglas F-15S Strike Eagle is a newer version of the United States' F-15s that were grounded after one crashed in November, he is confident his aircraft are safe.

"They didn't have any problems," he said. "They're good to go."

Like U.S. F-15E Strike Eagles that have been cleared to fly, the Saudis' F-15S planes don't have cracks in the "longerons," or cockpit support beams.

Last month, 40 percent of the U.S. F-15 fleet was grounded when crash investigators found potential structural flaws in the wreckage of an F-15 flown by a Missouri Air National Guard pilot. The jet crashed Nov. 2 in Missouri, and the pilot, Maj. Stephen Stilwell, managed to eject from the aircraft.

Air Combat Command leader Gen. John Corley has said decisions on returning the 191 grounded F-15 Eagles to flight would be made on a "plane-by-plane" basis. The 191 included 13 of the 25 F-15s assigned to Nellis Air Force Base.

As a result, some of the F-15 aggressor aircraft that play the role of enemy planes in the Red Flag exercise will be replaced with F-16s, base officials said.

Aseeri, whose pilots are the only foreign participants in the Red Flag exercise, which begins today, said he's looking forward to honing their skills. The Royal Saudi Air Force, he said, has about 250 fighter jets, including Tornadoes and F-15S Strike Eagles. Some of them, fresh off the line, participated in a Red Flag exercise in August 2005.

"There's a lot of interaction with the other forces," he said, noting that the goal of this Red Flag will be "basically to raise the standards."

"It's not only about flying the jets, it's knowing each other and interacting with each other," he said.

This Red Flag, which runs through Feb. 15, involves more than 50 aircraft, including B-52 bombers, F-22A Raptors, the Navy's EA-6B Prowler and U.S. Air Force F-15Es.

Base officials said increased aircraft noise can be expected in the vicinity of the base as the aircraft fly missions during the day and night over the 15,000-square-mile Nellis range.

The Saudi air force flew border security missions in the 1991 Persian Gulf War and during the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Aseeri said.

The Red Flag exercises are important to his pilots, he said, because their performance is evaluated and they learn how to improve and interact with their allies.

Asked what he thinks of Las Vegas, Aseeri said: "It's a crazy town, very crazy town."
Note: Can one of the Mods please correct the typo in the title to make it read out "Saudi Air Force F-15S in Red Flag" in stead of "Saudi Aor Force..."? Please and thanks.
 

SaudiArabian

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its been since over a month , i have some news about it and some photos , i'll begin with the news first. its great that the F-15S flew over the world from here to the US :)



Saudi Air Force to participate in military Exercise in US

Riyadh, Feb 02 , SPA --In line with the approval of Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Deputy Premier, Minister of Defense and Aviation and Inspector General, the participation of the Royal Saudi Air force in the exercise of the Red Flag-3, 2008, due to take place at Niles base in the United States, the Royal Saudi Air Force Planes which will participate in the Exercise arrived on Friday at the Base.

The planes were received by commander of the group of the Royal Saudi Air Force for the mission of the Red Flag-3, 2008, Colonel Ahmad Assiri and other officers.

In a statement to SPA, AL-Assiri said the training of the planes which will participate in the exercise began nine Months ago.

Highlighting the efficiency and capability of the Saudi pilots, al-Assiri said this participations is the third participation for the Royal Saudi Air Force in the exercises of the Red Flag.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=523228





Prince Khalid bin Sultan to attend Red Flag exercises

Las Vegas, Feb. 3, SPA -- Prince Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Assistant Minister of Defense and Aviation for Military Affairs, will attend the Red Flag exercises here on Thursday. Royal Saudi Air Forces planes will participate in the exercises which will be organized at Niles Airbase here.

Prince Lt. General Abdulrahman bin Fahd al-Faisal, the Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Forces, said the participation of the Royal Saudi Air Forces planes in the exercises comes in line with the set plan to improve the efficiency of the Air Forces.
He noted that this will be the third participation for the planes of the Royal Saudi Air Forces in the Red Flag exercises.

Prince Lt. General Abdulrahman al-Faisal pointed out that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the sole Arab country participating in the exercises which require a high efficiency.

Lt. Abdulrahman drew attention to the capability of the Royal Saudi Air Forces planes on overcoming all difficulties and obstacles.

He highlighted the big strides made by the Saudi armed forces in all domains with the support of the Custodian of the two Holy Mosques King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, the Supreme Commander of all armed forces, and his Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=523515
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=523524






Prince Khalid bin Sultan starts U.S. visit

Las Vegas, U.S., February 05, SPA -- Prince Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Assistant Defense and Aviation Minister for Military Affairs, arrived here to attend the Red Flag-3 exercises in which planes of the Royal Saudi Air Forces are participating along with the US air forces and air forces of a number of friendly countries.

He is accompanied by Lt. General Prince Abdulrahman bin Fahd Al-Faisal, the Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Forces.
On arrival, They were greeted by Commander of the war center at the US air forces Major General Michael Warden and a number of officials.

The exercises of Red Flag-3, in which the planes of the Royal Saudi Air forces are participating, began today at Niles Airbase here.

F-15; B-52; F-22; I-6B fighter planes as well as surveillance and Warning; electronics; research; fuel, command and control center's planes are participating in the exercises.

In a statement to Saudi Press Agency (SPA), Prince Turki bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz said the air operations are proceeding ahead very well as planned, adding that the Saudi planes have performed their mission successfully.

He noted that the Royal Saudi Air forces are participating with eight f-15 fighter planes along with the planes of the United States and a number of friendly countries.

The participation of the Saudi planes in Red Flag-3 exercises aims at the development of the capability and efficiency of the Royal Saudi Air Forces.

The Saudi planes, which are participating in the exercises, arrived here last Tuesday.


--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=524229
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=524257





Prince Khalid bin Sultan graces Thursday Red Flag-3 Exercises

Las Vegas, February 6, SPA -- In the presence of Prince Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Saudi Assistant Minister of Defense and Aviation for Military Affairs, the exercises of the Red Flag -3 will be launched at Niles Airbase tomorrow.
Royal Saudi Air Forces' (RSAF) planes are participating in the exercises.

Prince Lt General Abdulrahman bin Fahd Al-Faisal, the Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Forces, said the participation of the planes of the RSAF comes in line with the set plans for developing the combating capability of the air forces.
He noted that this is the third time for the planes of the RSAF to participate in the exercises.

Saudi Arabia is the sole Arab country which is participating in the exercises.

Lt Abdulrahman Al-Faisal, highlighted the remarkable developments witnessed by the Saudi Armed forces in all domains.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=524538





Commander of Royal Saudi Air Force conducts inspection tour

Las Vegas, February 07, SPA -- Lt.General Prince Abdul-Rahman bin Fahd Al-Faisal, Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Force made an inspection tour yesterday of the headquarters of the Air Force housing for Saudi participants in the Red Flag- 3 exercises now in progress in the city of Las Vegas.

On arrival at the venue, he was greeted by Colonel Ahmed bin Ali Asseri, Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Force for the mission of the Exercise, Major Prince Turki Bin Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz, and pilots as well as officers who are participating in the exercise.

Prince Abdul-Rahman bin Fahd toured the headquarters' housing and got acquainted with the comfort and safety of the participants in the exercise and the progress of the preparations to secure the maximum benefits for Saudi pilots and technicians from these advanced exercises in which they are currently participating along with the United States Air Force and other forces of friendly countries that are part of these exercises.

These exercises are being conducted at Niles base of the U.S. Air Force in the city of Las Vegas.

These exercises included a number of sorties to implement the tasks of offensive and defensive combat with advanced F-15, B-52, F-22, A-6 B, AWACS, Electronic Search Planes and Refueling stations, Joint command and control centers.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=524883






Prince Khalid bin Sultan meets Saudi Air Force group at Niles Base

Las Vegas, February 08, SPA -- At Niles Base, Prince Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Assistant Defense and Aviation Minister for Military Affairs met last night with the Royal Saudi Air Forces Group which is participating in the exercises of Red Flag-3.

At the base, He also met with the US air forces and air forces of a number of friendly countries.

In a speech delivered at the outset of the meeting, he expressed his happiness to meet a new batch of Royal Saudi Air Forces for the second time within seven months, explaining that he meets later today with men who are trying to prove their operational merits and to assure their readiness to combat through the implementation of air operations in advanced mock warfare exercises with other air forces.

He said "This meeting is being carried out while the world is passing through stages of turmoil and confusion represented in conflicts of interest as there is hardly any spot in the world that is without war or conflict".

He added "Everyone is looking for stability and everyone is dreaming of living in safety, but everyone seems to have lost the way. As such, there is no lasting safety and no stability ".

Prince Khalid bin Sultan assured that the Saudi wise Leadership made many efforts to direct the Nation towards safety and security.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=525206







Prince Khalid bin Sultan tours US Niles Base

Las Vegas, February 08, SPA -- Prince Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Saudi Assistant Defense and Aviation Minister for Military Affairs; Prince Lt. General Abdulrahman bin Fahd Al-Faisal, the Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Forces and a number of officials toured here last night US Niles Base where the Royal Saudi Air Forces are participating in the Red Flag-3 exercises along with the US air forces and air forces of a number of friendly countries.

At Niles Base, he was received by the US Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Affairs, General Michael Hardin, the Deputy Commander of the US air forces, General John Eters and a number of officials.

Prince Khalid watched an advanced mock battle between American and Saudi forces.

Also, he toured the base facilities and was briefed on the operations and missions which is being carried out at the these facilities.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=525207







Prince Khalid bin Sultan meets US military official

Las Vegas, Feb 9, SPA -- Prince Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, the Assistant Defense and Aviation Minister for Military Affairs, met here on Friday evening with Chief of Staff of the US Air Forces General Michael Mosley.

They reviewed aspects of military cooperation between the Kingdom and the US as well as issues pertaining to the participation of the Royal Saudi Air Forces in the exercises of Red Flag 3.

Prince Khalid bin Sultan extended to Mosley a memorial shield at the end of the meeting.
The meeting was attended by Lt. General Prince Abdulrahman bin Fahd al-Faisal, the Commander of the Royal Saudi Air Forces.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=525390






Saudi aircraft participating in Green Flag Exercise arrive

Riyadh, February 23, SPA -- Saudi aircraft participating in the "Green Flag Exercise 3 - 2008" in Nells base in Las Vegas arrived here yesterday.

The Saudi Royal Air Force successfully participated with an "F-155" aircraft squadron along with teams from U.S. Air Forces and air forces of a number of countries.

Joint exercises for advanced combat operations were successfully carried out with the participation of sophisticated systems of F-15, B-52 and F-22 aircraft.

The crews and technicians were received by Assistant Commander of King Khalid Air Base in the Southern Region Brigadier General Saud bin Mohammed Al-Gharbi.

--SPA
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/details.php?id=529707
 

SaudiArabian

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some pics


Prince Khalid arrival
http://www.alriyadh.com/2008/02/06/img/072768.jpg
http://www.alriyadh.com/2008/02/06/img/072767.jpg

F-15S landing in the base
http://www.alriyadh.com/2008/02/06/img/072769.jpg


Saudi US military ceremony
http://www.spa.gov.sa/galupload/normal/21240_F02.jpg
http://www.spa.gov.sa/galupload/normal/21238_F04.jpg


RSAF F-15S photos in Red Flag-3
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/1330030.jpg
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/red_flag08-22_01.jpg
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/080212-F-8732E-025.jpg
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/1316117.jpg


An F-15S from the Royal Saudi air force waits for an F-22 Raptor from the 1st Fighter Wing angley AFB Va to taxi onto the runway during Red Flag exercise 08-2.2 here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/AnF-15SfromtheRoyalSaudiairforcewait.jpg



Royal Saudi air force Sgt Abdulrahman Al-Shhrani a crew chief assigned to the 6th Squadron conducts routine maintenance on a F-15S after a Red Flag mission here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/RoyalSaudiairforceSgtAbdulrahmanAl-S.jpg


Royal Saudi air force Sgts Qassim Al-Ghazwani (left) and Amri Mansour both crew chiefs assigned to the 6th Squadron review maintenance technical orders for the F-15S during Red Flag here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/RoyalSaudiairforceSgtsQassimAl-Ghazw.jpg



Sgt Essa Y Al Asseri a weapons maintainer with the 6th Squadron Royal Saudi air force inspects a bomb before loading onto a Saudi F-15S during Red Flag here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/SgtEssaYAlAsseriaweaponsmaintainerwi.jpg
 

eaf-f16

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some pics


Prince Khalid arrival
http://www.alriyadh.com/2008/02/06/img/072768.jpg
http://www.alriyadh.com/2008/02/06/img/072767.jpg

F-15S landing in the base
http://www.alriyadh.com/2008/02/06/img/072769.jpg


Saudi US military ceremony
http://www.spa.gov.sa/galupload/normal/21240_F02.jpg
http://www.spa.gov.sa/galupload/normal/21238_F04.jpg


RSAF F-15S photos in Red Flag-3
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/1330030.jpg
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/red_flag08-22_01.jpg
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/080212-F-8732E-025.jpg
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/1316117.jpg


An F-15S from the Royal Saudi air force waits for an F-22 Raptor from the 1st Fighter Wing angley AFB Va to taxi onto the runway during Red Flag exercise 08-2.2 here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/AnF-15SfromtheRoyalSaudiairforcewait.jpg



Royal Saudi air force Sgt Abdulrahman Al-Shhrani a crew chief assigned to the 6th Squadron conducts routine maintenance on a F-15S after a Red Flag mission here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/RoyalSaudiairforceSgtAbdulrahmanAl-S.jpg


Royal Saudi air force Sgts Qassim Al-Ghazwani (left) and Amri Mansour both crew chiefs assigned to the 6th Squadron review maintenance technical orders for the F-15S during Red Flag here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/RoyalSaudiairforceSgtsQassimAl-Ghazw.jpg



Sgt Essa Y Al Asseri a weapons maintainer with the 6th Squadron Royal Saudi air force inspects a bomb before loading onto a Saudi F-15S during Red Flag here Feb 12
http://royalsaudiairforces.googlepages.com/SgtEssaYAlAsseriaweaponsmaintainerwi.jpg
Awesome pictures! Thanks a million!


Why isn't there a Saudi Armed Forces category in the pictures section?:confused:
 

SaudiArabian

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this is a special documentary video (in English) of the Saudi Air Force in Red Flag exercise including little interviews with Saudi pilots and their opinions as well as some information ..

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U61D8wuU0o"]YouTube - the royal saudi air force at the RED FLAGالقوات الجوية السعو[/ame]



Awesome pictures! Thanks a million!


Why isn't there a Saudi Armed Forces category in the pictures section?
you're welcome.
no i have not seen any unfortunately.
 

nevidimka

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Hmm...the saudi f15 doesnt seem to have the tinted glass cockpit which is commonly found on western air forces. Is this technology banned form export too?
 

jaffo4011

New Member
going to be even better when they get their typhoons!......i will be very interested in the level of interaction then....
 

JohanGrön

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Hmm...the saudi f15 doesnt seem to have the tinted glass cockpit which is commonly found on western air forces. Is this technology banned form export too?
When you say tinted do you mean the slight yellow hue visible on for example Gripen 39 glass coockpit?
 

JohanGrön

New Member
Yes, that yellow tinted glass cockpit on many western planes.
AFAIK it's for full EMP protection of aeroplane. It should also reduce radarreflections to some extent as they don't enter into the cockpit (my guess). The yellow tint is due to gold injected in glass cockpit (layers).

Got it explained to me by a Swaf Gripen 39 pilot two years ago. Full EMP protection is needed for Gripen 39 as it only have fully electronic backup systems and it should be coming down to earth rather quick if exposed to EMP weapons if it hadn't got the protection. :cool:

I guess the cockpits were one of the hardest places to protect on modern planes but the gold injection into the cockpit glass seems to work.

Do you know the approach that Russian manufacturers are taking to EMP protect their planes cockpits? Would be fun to know!


Cheers
 
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derab

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I appreciate

Thank you very much..

And I appreciate what you are fallowing the admire of our Saudi air force..

The Saudi air force f-15 is from the best air craft in the world I have about ( 1000 ) a hours on that machine and I love it so much..

Thanks again..

eagle 01
 

SABRE

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Thank you very much..

And I appreciate what you are fallowing the admire of our Saudi air force..

The Saudi air force f-15 is from the best air craft in the world I have about ( 1000 ) a hours on that machine and I love it so much..

Thanks again..

eagle 01
So you were/are part of the Saudi Air Force and pilot on F-15? Interesting. Any idea or analysis on how Saudis will perform compared/against the other air forces taking part in the Red Flag? I my self have been very keen to find out since I came across the news.

jaffo4011 said:
going to be even better when they get their typhoons!......i will be very interested in the level of interaction then....
Yes but that is going to take some time. It should be interesting with the F-15s as well. A friend of mine, who expertise on Middle Easter Air Force (especially of Israel & Gulf), told me Saudi pilots have evolved or are evolving and they are worth an attention. According to him, right now Saudis need a better machine and their decision to go with Typhoons may be one of their best.
 

derab

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So you were/are part of the Saudi Air Force and pilot on F-15? Interesting. Any idea or analysis on how Saudis will perform compared/against the other air forces taking part in the Red Flag? I my self have been very keen to find out since I came across the news.



Yes but that is going to take some time. It should be interesting with the F-15s as well. A friend of mine, who expertise on Middle Easter Air Force (especially of Israel & Gulf), told me Saudi pilots have evolved or are evolving and they are worth an attention. According to him, right now Saudis need a better machine and their decision to go with Typhoons may be one of their best.
Red flag exercise aircraft comparison

All you need is here.

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/info/red_flag08-22.html


http://www.dreamlandresort.com/info/nellis.html
 

derab

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al3ameed

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I agree with Sabre,

It would be very interesting to find out how they fared in the excercise. It's hard to tell how capable they are, all you hear are wild exagerations.
 

simdude97

New Member
I agree with Sabre,

It would be very interesting to find out how they fared in the excercise. It's hard to tell how capable they are, all you hear are wild exagerations.
How do you accurately judge how they do in exercises? The point of Red Flag is to better learn how to operate with and against dissimilar aircraft. It is not about how many planes get "shot down".

going to be even better when they get their typhoons!......i will be very interested in the level of interaction then....
Quite a ridiculous statement. Red flag is about tactics and simulated aggressors. You are not flying against red force F-16s and F-15s. You are flying against whatever simulated combination of tactics, numbers, platforms, and weapons are needed to use to achieve the training goals of that particular Red Flag exercise. The Red Force package used in future Red Flags will not necessarily be the same as this one.
 

Jezza

Member
Does anyone know the weapons cleared for the strike eagles.
The saudi wepons purchased for use on the Strike eagles?
 

al3ameed

New Member
simdude,

I don't see the need for your defensive tone.
Performance evaluation and feedback is a major part of these excercises.
 

simdude97

New Member
simdude,

I don't see the need for your defensive tone.
Performance evaluation and feedback is a major part of these excercises.
There was nothing defensive about it. I was just reacting to an ignorant statement made by someone else. The exercise will change as the platform changes. You cannot compare performance from one red flag to another. They are all different scenarios.
 

jaffo4011

New Member
There was nothing defensive about it. I was just reacting to an ignorant statement made by someone else. The exercise will change as the platform changes. You cannot compare performance from one red flag to another. They are all different scenarios.
my ignorant stmt eh?

i appreciate your restraint and politeness in replying to my post.

for your information,whilst red flag is about developing tactics its also about developing tactics to suit your particular aircraft and their weapons systems.as such it very does matter which aircraft you are utilising and how it compares with others taking part.im very surprised that a member with such an obvious wealth of experience wouldnt be aware of that......(or you wee just a tad defensive)
 
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