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This is a discussion on Royal Australian Air Force [RAAF] News, Discussions and Updates within the Air Force & Aviation forum, part of the Global Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by SteveR Actually we are buying the Joint Strike Missile (JSM) which is somewhat different from the NSM. ...


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Actually we are buying the Joint Strike Missile (JSM) which is somewhat different from the NSM. JSM will have BAE Systems Australia ESM seeker but there has been no such announcement for that on the NSM. I believe the NSM has a French engine whereas the JSM has a US engine.
Nothing has been chosen. The Defence White Paper 2016 - Integrated Investment Program, listed the Air Combat Capability - Maritime Strike Weapons project as not even commencing until 2018... I doubt it has even passed it's first gateway yet...
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Maybe someone should be talking to the navy about the fit, finish and performance of Hobart before canning the people who built and delivered her, dispute the challenges of the then new and unique procurement model. These ships were ordered ten years ago under the Howard Government, started under Rudd, rebase-lined and reorganised under Gillard, then again under Abbott and are being now being delivered under Turnbull (who knows who will be PM when ship three commissions) and somehow the problems of several years ago are the fault of those who work at ASC now.......
Sorry Volk my post wasn't meant to be an attack on the build quality of the AWD just how differently the Government is running the 2 programs, one program an Alliance where the proncipal Ship designer is only a Sub contractor and the other where the Ship Designer will run the show. The Canoe bit is more an off hand remark aimed at the then Defmin.
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Nothing has been chosen. The Defence White Paper 2016 - Integrated Investment Program, listed the Air Combat Capability - Maritime Strike Weapons project as not even commencing until 2018... I doubt it has even passed it's first gateway yet...
Thanks - I stand corrected. However Australia has invested in the integration of JSM on the F35 and Pyne has certainly been seen standing next to a JSM mockup at the last Avalon.
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The JSM is just the NSM repackaged. Same engine, same electronics, some minor differences for packaging and mission.They key elements are the same. NSM also has a rocket booster to launch it from the surface before the jet takes over.

I believe both feature the TRI-40 jet engine.
Janes IDR Dec 14 report on JSM says that the NSM TR!-40 was replaced by a Williams WJ38-7K on the JSM partly because the JSM fuselage had to be narrowed to fit the F35 bombay and partly to attract US interest in selecting it for the F35A and F35C.

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Thanks - I stand corrected. However Australia has invested in the integration of JSM on the F35 and Pyne has certainly been seen standing next to a JSM mockup at the last Avalon.
Yep, it seems a pretty sure thing for the RAAF particularly in relation to the F-35 and perhaps the P-8A, but nothing has been decided yet and there are other options that may come into play, particularly JASSM / LRASM of which we have a relatively large inventory of AGM-158A JASSM missiles and nothing besides the soon to be retired legacy Hornets to carry and launch them from...
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