Paris strengthens military ties with Libya

P.A.F

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http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050217-101552-3850r

Paris strengthens military ties with Libya

By Andrew Borowiec
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published February 17, 2005


PARIS -- France is intensifying contacts with Libya, introducing military officers as part of a "strategic cooperation pact" between the two countries.

The move followed a visit to Libya early this month by French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie, who said the treaty signed in November will consist of "all aspects of cooperation."

Under the pact, France will create a better air cover over Libyan territory with sales of aircraft and combat helicopters, and improve Libya's arsenal, much of it bought from France about 30 years ago.

The Libyan hardware was "in a poor state," French officials said, largely from neglect because of the effect of sanctions, lifted recently by European countries.

France also hopes for industrial contracts, pointing out that Libya "has sizable needs and sizable funds at its disposal."

Libya, the owner of Africa's largest proven oil reserves, recently emerged from international isolation. It has accumulated an estimated $20 billion in its coffers, largely because of soaring oil prices.

Although several French companies are active in Libya, Italy and Germany account for an estimated 32 percent of Western sales there. The French companies include the Vinci construction group, the telecommunications manufacturer Alcatel and the Alston engineering group.

Libya has granted 11 out of 15 recent oil exploration contracts to U.S. firms, but Washington still thinks Tripoli condones international terrorism. Despite overtures by Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, Washington has maintained its embargo on arms sales to Libya.

Other countries have no such scruples, and the French offer to Libya of its state-of-the-art Rafale fighter-bomber has encountered competition from Britain's Eurofighter and Russia's Sukhoi 27.

French officials, although upbeat about the fledgling partnership, have cautioned about Col. Gadhafi's "capricious temperament."

During Mrs. Alliot-Marie's visit, the mercurial Libyan leader criticized French military presence in parts of Africa, saying, "The military approach is not the best way of solving the problems of the African continent."

Nonetheless, this statement was followed by intensified discussions on the military aspects of French-Libyan cooperation.

France intends to repair some of the 148 Mirage fighter-bombers and patrol boats sold to Libya in the early 1970s. Libya subsequently sold most of the planes to Pakistan, but the remaining craft apparently "can be saved," according to one French estimate.

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all of a sudden, why does france see to modernize libias defences????:confused:
 

Attila

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This may sound far fetched, but I believe France is responsible for arming pretty much every Islamic/Arab nation. The ultimate goal? Who knows...maybe it is another war against Israel?

I think that the reality of this situation is that any Euro country, whether it be France, Germany, and Russia to name a few, is that they want to show they are still anti-American and as a result they are doing business with countries that are essentially anti-American as well.

I think that my biggest concern/worry about all this is that Libya is a very empoverished nation to say the least. With all this new money, perhaps it would be better to setup some type of infrastructure and buy some more aid to create a healthier country instead of one that is constantly based on military growth.

Who exactly do they have to fear in this world??

Attila
 

adsH

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Attila said:
I think that my biggest concern/worry about all this is that Libya is a very empoverished nation to say the least. With all this new money, perhaps it would be better to setup some type of infrastructure and buy some more aid to create a healthier country instead of one that is constantly based on military growth.

Who exactly do they have to fear in this world??

Attila
Theyr not "Socialist/Pacifists" So Common Logic does not Appeal to them. They are ruled by a Military dictator who seams to have stopped progressing after the Rank of Col.., And I think french would winn all the Export Deals since it would be French Officers that would negotiate the Deal on behalf of the Libyan Forces. So Our Euro Fighter wouldn't stand a chance Against that sort of Competition.
 

A Khan

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I Dont know why the west so badly want democratic reforms in countries such as Iran ( who has had elections for many years now and en elected parliamant ), and other such nations. But how come there is no such pressure on Libya? the old colonel should learn that his ways haven't really done much good for the country, so maybe he should seriously consider stepping down (and not let HIS son ) but someone elected take over the power.
 
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