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Iranian F-14 fighter crashes, two dead

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Old June 21st, 2004   #1
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TEHRAN (AFP) Jun 21, 2004

An Iranian Air Force F-14 fighter plane has crashed during a training flight, killing the two crew on board, the official news agency IRNA reported Monday.
The jet, bought from the the United States prior to the 1979 Islamic revolution, crashed while it was trying to land at a base near the central city of Isfahan.

Most of Iran's commercial and military planes are of US origin, and the country has a hard time finding spare parts due to a US embargo.

The report said the crash was being investigated.


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Obviously the lack of spare parts will begin to highlight itself much more in the coming years with such type of crashes and technical failures becoming more frequent if Iran doesnt do anything to cure the problem. Its an old US tactic to flood another country with equipment of US origin and then use the spares as a tool of fiddling with that country's political and social structures.
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For sure. Sad to hear about the Irani air force's loss though
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i doubt its spare parts but i think its probably Training it was a two seater, it was probably on a training mission. what kind of sub or trans sonic trainers do they have.
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Adsh, as far as I know all f-14's are 2 seaters.

I notice Myst throwing another spear at the US again. Why am I not surprised. So this was just all part of the US's master plan, huh?

Let me see now, we sell F-14's to Iran when the Shah was in power, because we knew he would be overthrown, and then 25 years later the planes would start crashing because we refuse to sell them parts. Right. Boy, we sure do think ahead, don't we.

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lol good thinking!! I think they teh Iranians can maintain there AC, but they don't have quality trainging platforms. An F-14 is an amazing Platform But to Master it is a lifetime Job, something only the USNAVY Air arms i would say has been able to do.
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An F-14 is an amazing Platform But to Master it is a lifetime Job, something only the USNAVY Air arms i would say has been able to do.
The Iranians may be able to maintain them, but I kind of doubt it. The guys flying them today are not the same pilots we trained in the late 70's, that's for sure.

As you say, the F-14 is a bad ass airplane, but is a big complicated machine, and you don't just hop in and go. That is one reason we have pretty much retired them in favor of F-18's. They are a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to fly and maintain. Can't wait for the JSF's to come online.

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All Tomcats are 2 seaters, the backseater was a RIO or WSO (depending on the decade we look at)
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i think the crash may be due to several factors

-Quality of Iranian pilot

-Lack of spare parts

-Aircraft Ageing (1978-present)

F-14 itself is a very formidable AC, but requires proper upkeep and highly trained pilot to put it into its full potential. There are several report that indicates only about 1/3 of the F-14 the Iranian have can still fly.
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Hey Guys i was watching this Program on Discovery Wings Channel, and they Had a program Dedicated for the VTO Lift AC the Harrier, they showed its Development and its Failures, it'a an amazing design, but i wonder if the VTOL in the JSF is going through the Same problem, Briton spent alot of time just perfecting the controls of this complicating Jet and now its just a mint example of British ingenuity. I am quite Proud of it, a Concept that actually other countries could not come up with or couldn't perfect. apparently the First prototype was in air being tested 3 years from its concept was developed.
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but i wonder if the VTOL in the JSF is going through the Same problem, Briton spent alot of time just perfecting the controls of this complicating Jet and now its just a mint example of British ingenuity.
The VTOL concept for the JSF uses a different concept. The Harrier IIRC was a bypass system. The JSF uses a direct and geared duct. BAe has primary responsibility for the F-35B
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Whats iranian airforce like in today's term? any good or just like Iraqi airforce? Are they planning to acquire any jets?

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Whats iranian airforce like in today's term? any good or just like Iraqi airforce? Are they planning to acquire any jets?

Not as good as they used to be. They have a substantial number of ex Iraqi combat aircraft which they didn't give back after Kuwait (IIRC they claimed war reparations for the Iraq-Iran war)
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Adsh, as far as I know all f-14's are 2 seaters.

I notice Myst throwing another spear at the US again. Why am I not surprised. So this was just all part of the US's master plan, huh?

Let me see now, we sell F-14's to Iran when the Shah was in power, because we knew he would be overthrown, and then 25 years later the planes would start crashing because we refuse to sell them parts. Right. Boy, we sure do think ahead, don't we.

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US didn't sell its home-made equipment to Shah's Iran just 'cuz it had a premonition that the Shah would be thrown and the spares used as a tool. It sold American equipment to Iran because Shah was a 'great ally' of the US and so the US decidede to let the Shah have some American toys as a sign of friendship (plus, it always is a good idea to sell American equipment 'cuz it acts as a 'tool' in unforseen circumstances if they go bad - against US interests), and obviously after the Islamic Revolution in Iran, US withdrew its bed-sharing feelings for Iran for good.
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i doubt its spare parts but i think its probably Training it was a two seater, it was probably on a training mission. what kind of sub or trans sonic trainers do they have.
i was looking at your Stills amimated stuff, i like what you did to the escort class but the but youve sort of made it look abit weerd but i can see you like Babilon 5, yeah it was a great show, i just wish Andromida could of hired you to do there graphics have you seen some of there episodes it looks good sometimes and then suddenly they just mess everything up!!
All F-14s are Two-Seaters. And I love Babyon 5 Escort class? Which one is that? I don't remember anything like that.... And Andromeda is a good show... but they have one major problem... they are made by the people who made Star Trek... and so obviously they ruin it... they show all battles from inside the ship, instead of showing the amazing graphics and action... and yeah, they don't texture their ships with image maps... they use just reflection... and that looks bad sometimes.
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