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Old July 5th, 2004   #31
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The link is working pefectly fine for me pathfinder. Are you sure ur connections ok?
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Old July 5th, 2004   #32
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Old July 6th, 2004   #33
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Sorry corsair. Both links are returning an HTTP 404 not found message.
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Old July 6th, 2004   #34
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I think its price is between 30 to 40 mill per unit
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Old July 6th, 2004   #35
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Re: Aircraft Prices Worldwide in USD. Gripen included.

Instead of writing the whole url just write the URL for the Home Page.
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Small search on the forum, pulls up this thread:

http://defencetalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1091

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How about blackjack and backfire? anyone know the price?

BTW i can't open the link.
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Open up this one and scroll down to see the prices thing. It should be an aircraft cockpit.

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F-14 is expensive cause its the only aircraft in the world which can carry the longest range active radar guided missile the AIM-54 pheonix which has no match. Also the F-14 D supertomact's "radar" has the ability to jam its oponent's radar. It carries a lot of fuel, missiles and is tasked with a very imp job of protecting the carrier so one can imagine the technology and power put into this huge machine. Not many fighter aircraft with such tremendous capabilities are available for carrier borne operations...

Recently F-14 has been transformed into an excellent strike and reconnaissance platform...

Aircraft prices depend on a lot of things. Isreal for example pays a lot less for what arab country's pay for the same equipment. Then there are offset deals which balance the final price so there r diff factors.
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F-14 is expensive cause its the only aircraft in the world which can carry the longest range active radar guided missile the AIM-54 pheonix which has no match. Also the F-14 D supertomact's "radar" has the ability to jam its oponent's radar. It carries a lot of fuel, missiles and is tasked with a very imp job of protecting the carrier so one can imagine the technology and power put into this huge machine. Not many fighter aircraft with such tremendous capabilities are available for carrier borne operations...

Recently F-14 has been transformed into an excellent strike and reconnaissance platform...

Aircraft prices depend on a lot of things. Isreal for example pays a lot less for what arab country's pay for the same equipment. Then there are offset deals which balance the final price so there r diff factors.
1) The F-14 has almost been phased out of operational existence, IIRC there is only one active squadron left. All others have been line replaced

2) The Phoenix is almost acknowledged as being obsolete. It was designed to take out long range subsonic bombers at maximum distance - and in effect, it's job became considerably harder once the Blackjacks came into service. It was not designed for High G close combat manouvres so it would have struggled against a fast turning high speed foe.

3) No investments have been made in the last few years on the F-14 as the Super Hornet was designed to replace it. It has a high downtime compared to the aircraft repalcing it, and in some areas is less capable.

It was a good aircraft - but it's got more romantic attachment applied to it than any other USN aircraft - hence why there is still some mystical defence of it by advocates.

The prices quoted in the article are not realistic, as there is no common baseline applied to arrive at the figures. It would be almost impossible to do as well, as sunk prices have not been included, package purchases effect transactions and volume purchase will effect final figures. In some cases aircraft are part bartered against natural resources and are exchanged at the commodity rate for that period - not necessarily a reflection of true purchase worth. Some purchases are made on political requirements and as such the price is artificial and declared at varying rates for either domestic consumption or political imperative.

Take them all with a grain of salt.
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In addition to GF's comments, the AIM-54 Phoenix was rarely ever carried in great numbers by F-14 Tomcats at sea due to it's extreme weight, meaning that an aircraft coming back into land with a full load of AIM-54's would have to ditch said AIM-54's prior to landing on a Carrier. A VERY expensive exercise even for the USN...
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F-16 C/D Block 50/52 are available for $20 Mil.

$25 Mil might be for Block 60

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Some purchases are made on political requirements and as such the price is artificial and declared at varying rates for either domestic consumption or political imperative.

Take them all with a grain of salt.
Dude asked why F-14 is expensive and i gave him a few reasons. Your msg about how it sucks n stuff is not relevent to my reply. Mirror always has 2 sides. If i am talking about the shiney side then it dosnt mean that its a MUST for u to come around with the other one. if you know what i mean.

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Dude asked why F-14 is expensive and i gave him a few reasons. Your msg about how it sucks n stuff is not relevent to my reply. Mirror always has 2 sides. If i am talking about the shiney side then it dosnt mean that its a MUST for u to come around with the other one. if you know what i mean.
Actually, if you read my response, you should be able toi determine that I am politely disagreeing with some of your claims. If you make statements that are based on temporal flux, then they will have a degree of innacuracy.

It's irrelevant whether you say it, or someone else says it. If I think the response is flawed, then I will provide a response.

OTOH, I have asked you a number of times to qualify your background in case I am making assumptions about your technical ability - I may be pitching my responses incorrectly on the basis of what I think you know.

Welcome to how forums work, if someone disagrees with you, they will jump on the statement pretty quickly, some will be polite, some will be less than gentlemanly. The latter is unwelcome. I can't do much about the issue if you are feeling persecuted about your responses. As in all forums, everyone measures you by the credibility you bring to the table. Accuracy and detail of responses is part of that at a certain level. There is an expectation that if you're part of the industry, are an "operator" or have established capability, that your responses will be more considered rather than just statements accepted without question. I was under the impression that you had an air background? If not, then I've made some incorrect assumptions.
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Re: Aircraft Prices.

Can any one Let me know the Details About the FBW Systems
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