100 New Aircraft for the VVS?

Feanor

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The arms-tass article claims 50 new aircraft and 50 helicopters. I'm wondering if we will be able to break that down by type.

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=67626&cid=24

They don't mention any aircraft types, and only the Ka-52 helicopter. However we do know that:

1) 24-34 MiG-29 that Algeria turned down, will be bought by the VVS. A contract for the 24 SMTs was already signed, and a contract for the rest was expected.
2) 3-12 Su-34 as apparently the first ones were only handed over to the VVS (from flight testing centers) in February. How many is unclear. At least 3 can be confirmed (photos). However some sources indicate more, and it would make little sense to hand over less then a squadron.
3) ?? Yak-130, I don't think the numbers are large, however I would guess anywhere from several, to maybe a squadron a most.

For helicopters, I know that Mi-28N, Mi-8MVT, Ka-52, and Ansat are the types planned however I do not have any even approximate numbers. I do know that the Ka-52 production line only opened recently. So we're probably looking at the LRIP for it. Mi-28N on the other hand has allegedly already started deliveries to the armed forces back in summer of 2008. The first conversion unit in Torzhok had 4. So it's not unrealistic to expect the first squadron operational.

I'm interested whether anyone else has any other articles, or info on the matter. A break down by types would give us insight into the ORBAT.

EDIT: And the purchase of a number Israeli UAVs has been confirmed. They will be bought for perspective study in the creation of a new Russian UAV. However I don't think they are included in this year.

http://lenta.ru/news/2009/03/05/drone/

Here is an article from kommersant.ru http://kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1130409&NodesID=2

dealing with more of the same. It claims that all 34 MiGs will be bought this year, and that 2 Su-34's will also be in the shopping cart. This would appear to be in addition to the 3 already delivered.
 
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Wall83

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Its strange that the russians suddenly can buy 34 MiGs just like that. Wouldnt it be better buying some more Su-34?
 

swerve

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The MiGs are already built. Su-34s would have to be built.

Don't think of it as for the benefit of the VVS, but for the benefit of MiG.
 

Feanor

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Except for the part where the VVS MiGs have recently been grounded. Last I heard, about 2/3rds of them still aren't cleared to fly again due to corrosion issues. These new SMTs are indeed much needed. Su-34s are indeed on the purchasing list, though I'm not sure how many. Since it's only this year that the first Su-34 have actually been delivered to the armed forces, at least 3 are on the bill, possibly more. I was hoping someone else might have some info, as I'm interested in breaking these down by type. Also would be interesting to see which unit the SMTs get delivered to.

EDIT: So initially 200 Fulcrums were grounded. 90 of them are still grounded after a detailed inspection.

http://newsru.com/russia/13mar2009/mig.html
 
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